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I neeeeed two seperate windows open everytime I dock automatically. One with station assets and one with my ships cargohold. I don't want to shift click every time.

I am a freighter pilot for Red Frog Freight who runs multiple freighters. I have accidentally not grabbed pakcages and flown empty freighters across New Eden more times in the last week than in the last year with the old inventory system. It really sucks not having seperate windows automatically open by default anymore.

The new system is a real PITA for someone who does about 1000 courier contracts a month.

CCP Soundwave .. you promised an performance boost with the latest update. Let the devs know, it didnt happen. Still needs time to open up a corp hangar. You dont know ... miss clicked or it is still working ... clicking it again results in the corp hangar closing again .. once after a while it opened. gargh

Moving 100 blueprints from A to B still results in LAG and time for a coffee break ... thats uncool. With the old system, the client responded to other actions I did in the UI ...

All my other points in former posts still apply .. do I need to repeat them?

Perhaps the lag may be not "network" side only. I have no lag at all with an hangar containing several thousands items. However, I have a high-end machine (quad core bought last year, GTX 560).

Let me get this straight, the lead game designer is "not happy" with a feature, but apparently didn't manage to get anything done about it the entire time it was up on the test server and they still released the unfinished test server version that everyone had been complaining about for weeks with no changes to try and correct the plethora of problems with it.

Over and over again you hear people from CCP talk about not rushing features to meet expansion deadlines and giving players what they actually want, yet this expansion has just been full of textbook cases of rushing features and ignoring warnings from the userbase about how gameplay is going to be negatively affected.

Stop releasing unfinished crap that nobody wants.

Or make it a "semi-unified" inventory. The tree is actually nice for cases where you have a single layer of containers, it just starts to suck wind when you get into 2-3 layers of little arrows. And it breaks down when you have more then 20-30 nodes in the tree because you have to vertically scroll a lot. For instance, if:

Alt-G - Opens up my personal hangar in a dedicated window (that remembers its settings and position). Then, in the left-hand tree view, the only nodes that appear there are (a) the hangar floor and (b) one node for each assembled container that I have in my personal hangar.

Because there's no extraneous stuff there, the tree actually becomes somewhat useful. Not as great as opening up containers in a tabbed stack. But it is at least possible to drag things from my personal hangar floor into my containers, without going through strange contortions. I don't have to worry that I'm going to drag them into a corp hangar by accident. If I find that the tree view won't do it, I can always double-click the containers or the tree nodes to break those out into a new window (and then tab-stack those windows that if needed).

Plus, if we could filter which containers show up in the tree list based on their name (by typing into a little text box at the top of the tree list, as suggested earlier in the thread), it would probably make using the tree more useful then dragging to a tabbed stack of container windows. Filtering by location name / location type name in the tree list would help a lot.

The "semi" unified inventory would be based around the concept that the following all open up their own dedicated inventory windows by default.

Corp Hangar button - only displays the corporate hangars at that station, with the divisions as the top level in the tree, and the containers as the second level.

Deliveries button - displays a simple container, with *no* tree option at a location that gets saved

Member Hangar button - only displays member hangars, each member is the top level in the tree. With the ability to filter by name in the tree view, this would make finding member hangars a cinch over the current system.

Personal Hangar - Alt-G shortcut, only my personal hangar, my personal containers, and nothing else

Ships hangar - Alt-N short cut - only my ships, and nothing else, optionally folded into the personal hangar shortcut.

Current ship's cargo - Alt-C short-cut, only the cargo and containers in my current ship. It needs to remember its size and settings by ship class. Freighters often have different window layouts then interceptors or carriers or other types of ships.

After that, you get into the stuff out in space.

Non-anchored can/wreck - should open up in a simple window dedicated to "non-anchored wrecks/cans". If the can/wreck vanishes, the window should close. If multiple wrecks/cans are opened at the same time, then create the tree view. Cans/wrecks should never be added to the tree view unless the player clicks the "open" button in the overview, and they should vanish from the tree view if they drift out of range.

Anchored stuff - should open up in a window dedicated to "anchored stuff in space". Things like POS fuel bays, labs, silos, arrays, secure containers.

Fleet member ships - Orcas, Rorquals, carriers, the ship maint bays and corporate hangar bays. These are unique enough that they deserve their own dedicated window. I'm tempted to say that "in-space ship bays" should have a separate window from "corporate hangar bays in space" because I think it gets too cluttered if you can have both in the tree at the same time.

One thing I've noticed is that the Corporation hangers tree is very and I do mean very slow to load if you have divisions with containers in them that contain hundreds of items.

If I had to guess this lag is because the code has to iterate over all the items in each container to load the tree before it can be displayed. In my case I have several hanger divisions that contain 10 to 30 containers with each container containing 200 to 700 items. I'm seeing 30 sec plus load times on my Corp Hanger tree view when I attempt to expand it. If I go to a different station with corporate hangers that do not contain containers with hundreds of items it's pretty fast load.

For those that will say, simple then don't put so much stuff in cans, I reply remember that we are limited to maximum number of items that can be in any hanger so cans are a must for organizing complicated inventories.

Perhaps it would be possible to not load the containers unless they are clicked on, similar to the way that the Corporate hanger tree nodes don't load until you click to expand.

when moving some stuff into station containers they appear locked even when containers setting are set to "unlocked". Dont know if anyone else got same problem.

If you're really insistent on keeping everything in one window, would it be possible to add a second container view panel to what you have so we can drag drop from one to the other? Also, please make all the window elements hideable and stop preloading everything.

Basically it would look like this:

Tree | Panel 1 | Panel 2

You could start with currently open container and then drag the new container you wish to open (or add right click) onto the second panel. That would make people's lives easier for now.

Thank you for adding active ship back. That was nothing short of annoying. Also, use your version 1.0 code for the assets window as that would be better than having to click everything to open/collapse.

I'm willing to deal with an old/new hybrid as mentioned in another thread which I have linked in my sig. Please look at that and comment on ability to implement at least the temporary window related changes.

Have the same problem, atm this setting seems to-be ignored. Maybe we should try to reassemble those containers?