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A few wishes apart from those heard over and over again already:

- Please put back the possibility to access the orcas ship maintanance hangar, drone hangar, ore hangar... by rightclicking on the active ship again - no idea why this was removed.

- Why is the Phantasm looking so horribly green now depending on the angle - was that intended ?


and please please give us a "open new window by default" button just to say it once again!

Here Here! Bravo!

Spot on

Add a tick box to remove estimated prices, this will remove a great deal of the lag associated with opening cans / items etc. Plus it was a stupid idea, trying to be polite, but what the **** was this for exactly? really, think about it, most of us sell our stuff in a trade hub where having this sort of functionality is not required. Why was it not optional from the beginning?

Oh and whilst I'm making the requested 'constructive' suggestions.

1. Add a ship hanger button that links directly to the....duh duh duuuuh ship hanger - 1click only
2. Return the corp hanger button, same thing - opens in a separate window
3. Make the windows stay when they are opened, and not close on dock / undock.
4. Reduce the screen real-estate required for your ******** UI - this one is important
5. Return one click functionality, I need my left hand for other **** than holding the shift key down.
6. Remove spiral vision when we open hangers.

Oh and whilst I hopefully have your eye for a second STOP deleting posts, if you think censorship is going to calm this community down you are seriously playing with fire. If the UI doesn't either get rolled back or made optional this is likely to build and NOT go quiet, I suspect the the CSM will be discussing the censorship of forum posts with you guys fairly soon.

"CCP Optimal wrote:
and I must stretch what has already been stated that reverting the entire thing is not an option (It's also as good as technically impossible). "

and I must tell you that my account's (6) won't be stretch on any more...

The statement (It's also as good as technically impossible)
Is a lie, it was as good as possible before we "got" the unified inventory crap,
but then the new UI only affect the back bone (missioners, miners, industraliests WH corps and other POS holders)
of EVE and not PvP'ers and isent that the direction EVE been moving towards the latest yeras.

Sincerly not yours anymore
XZen

PS
If the UI problems is sorted I might go to Playing EVE again. ATM log on do skills and log off until sub expires
(Lag, retarted one window system and for more info read on the forums.... ups you don't do that otherwise we woudnt be here NOW)

I do not ever want to see that stupid hangar tree ever again. I want my Neocom buttons back. You know, the ship hanger button and the Item hanger button.

I want to single click them. A single new persistent window should open when I click them.

Could we have it so we can open multiple of those inventory windows? I know it sounds counter intuitive but I think it will make feel much less limiting.

AS2: Because of quote limits, I will use "AS1:" before my first comment, "EI:" before Elyon Itari's response. I'll use AS2 before my new response. Hopefully it won't become too confusing. (Yes: C. Sagan was in my mind when the name of the character was discovered)
AS1: Here are some features that need fixing:
AS1: - The new interface is laggy - especially with a POS or many cans/wrecks in grid like during salvaging or mining op.
EI: This has already been optimised and is coming out in today's patch.
AS2: I hope CCP's optimization has succeeded properly, and it isn't just a theoretical tweak that has little real effect on the lag.
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AS1: - The new interface takes too much space from screen.
EI: If you used to have more than one window open, that already took up more space. If you only need one window for what you're doing, well, you can collapse the tree view by clicking the << button in the top left corner.
AS2: Yes, << button helps some, after that you just have to resize the window (to reduce the area it takes), and never touch the >> button, or it will mess things up. At least that is what my memory claims - my memory is a quirky thing; I cannot access the game atm so I could check. Also, the old windows could be very small and attached to each other.
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AS1: - The new interface involves too much scrolling up and down the tree.
EI: The scrollage should so far only be true for POS management. This is being worked on as well.
AS2: It also affects things if you have dozen or two ships and dozen or two containers in one station - like I do. Also, it affects things if you don't want the inventory window taking lots of room - either in station, or out in space. Again: I hope CCP does good job here. Separating the tree view from actual inventory might be a good move.
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AS1: - The new interface does not obey the old keyboard shortcuts, and if it does, it won't do it correctly.
EI: This may very well be. What shortcuts are you having issues with?
AS2: The best example I can give here is alt+c: I would like to open a separate window for the ship cargo, not the unified inventory window with all it's lag. If the lag is magically dispelled, I think I can live with the current shortcut.
AS2: As a development idea: there could be a shortcut for opening a separate window for the ships in your current station.
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AS1: - Shift+Click spawned windows don't remember their location & state.
EI: I am sure that this is an easy fix; you can expect this in a matter of weeks, I'd say.
AS2: As a programmer I am afraid this isn't as easy as you think. I believe so because the number of those spawned windows isn't currently limited. I think they currently dont's have a way of knowing what inventory windows have already been spawned, and thus need to open new one with every shift+click. Hopefully I am wrong and you are right, and CCP already has a plan to tackle this.
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AS1: - I don't need multiple instances of the same cargohold open at the same time. Does someone?
EI: What do you mean? In what way are you forced into having two identical cargoholds open?
AS2: I am not forced to yes, on the opposite; I am allowed to, and that is what troubles me as you noticed from my previous answer. I would be happy to be limited to one spawned window per container, but I honestly don't know if there is someone somewhere, that needs to have certain cargohold open more than once at a time.
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AS1: - I & my friends don't have any ships with Fuel bay, but it looks like that could use some fixing too.
EI: *My friends and I. Furthermore, the fuel bay for capital ships is being worked on as well - CCP even stated so on the first page ;)
AS2: So it seems; Soundwave mentions it in the thread. Hopefully the players affected by the thing will be happy.
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AS1: - CCP did not listen to SiSi feedback. That cannot be helped in this case, but maybe in future you could so? At least you should.
EI: It is true that CCP don't listen all that much to sisi feedback - but the players on sisi are not representative of the entire playerbase. The same goes for these forums.
AS2: I could be wrong, but I think the reason for SiSi existence and players being allowed there is, that CCP wishes to have (or at least 'has wished to have') input from players. If they don't listen to that input, the reason for SiSi existence is reduced, if not negated totally. Much of the same is true for forum input we provide here.
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EI: They could still be better at listening to feedback on SiSi, but it's like a few thousand players at most - way less than 1% of the playerbase. They can't blindly follow the suggestions of those players (though in this case, more feedback listening could have helped a bit :))
AS2: If some people provide their time for CCP testing purposes, CCP should listen to them. They are doing things for CCP after all, and for free. I think the players who have dedicated their time for these tests are to be respected more than the average players. The same is true for the opinions of these players. (And no, I have never taken part in SiSi testing; I expect to be paid for my work, so I won't go to SiSi. I am greedy in that way.)
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EI: Either way, your feedback was well structured and hopefully helped, unlike most of the stone-throwing, flaming, yelling, shouting, and threats of unsubscription - even if almost every member on the forums unsubscribed, it would be barely noticeable in the grand scheme of things. Still a major loss if it is not exclusively the whiny people leaving, though.
EI: Thank you for your time.
AS2: Thank you for opinions, input, time and kind words. Fly safe and may lag never be with you Elyon Itari.
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Learn to behave? who the hell are you? People are posting on these threads for your benefit as well unless your one of the 1% that actually like the new UI. The community is feeding back about a serious issue and jut because CCP doesn't like what it's hearing is no justification to censor even id some of the posts are off topic. Its the sort of act that can get out of hand, rapidly.

Oh and if the only reason your posting in this thread is to tell people to behave I suspect you'll be the next one to get muzzled.

Agree with ^^

The tree should be by default hidden.

dragging from hangar to orca corp hangar is still as slow as ****