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Mindseamstress
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
#441 - 2012-05-28 22:10:27 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Mindseamstress wrote:

Oh what you are talking about is going back to the way it was in 2003... I admit the game was more fun back then but unfortunately, it turns out the majority didn't so CCP took out the nerf bad in favor of carebearism. Note that the number of players went up sharply from an all time low of 3k per day.



You forget the part about having no Concord. Slightly different than no local. Convenient you forgot that.


Not really, you'd been popped before local even loaded :-P
Snow Burst
Caldari State
#442 - 2012-05-28 22:11:54 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Blabb3r M0uth B11tch wrote:
I'm of an opinion of this. HIgh Sec PVP isn't even about the PVP aspect of the game. My opinion is there are a few players out there that feel CCP is encroaching on there ability to absolutely ruin someones day. IE, it's not about PvP at all, but just making people miserable period, and your desperate desires to do so.

Believe it or not, there are actually very successful pirates that operate in 0.0 on a daily basis. I totally respect those guys and gals.

My personnel feelings is you high sec people, fighting for the right to be able to ruin peoples day in high sec, are nothing more than players that just can't make the grade. Nothing more, nothing less.

Like I said, the low sec, and 0.0 pirates, flourish and get my salute. Tank your high sec Hulks people. It's that simple.

PS Natsett Amuinn I would support removing local in 0.0. It would be more interesting for sure. Maybe even low sec. In high sec, NFW.


A local that allows you to tell if it's friend or foe, gives you a false impression of the EVE universe.

I don't want local to be removed.
Do some people want it removed all together? I don't agree with that.

They should remove the ability to extract informatin out of it. I don't use the list in my chat, except for intel chanell.

Chat should open you up.
Have a broadcast chanell that only reaches so far as well.

your the standout from goonswarm then lol

There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way. Or By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#443 - 2012-05-28 22:18:06 UTC
Snow Burst wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Blabb3r M0uth B11tch wrote:
I'm of an opinion of this. HIgh Sec PVP isn't even about the PVP aspect of the game. My opinion is there are a few players out there that feel CCP is encroaching on there ability to absolutely ruin someones day. IE, it's not about PvP at all, but just making people miserable period, and your desperate desires to do so.

Believe it or not, there are actually very successful pirates that operate in 0.0 on a daily basis. I totally respect those guys and gals.

My personnel feelings is you high sec people, fighting for the right to be able to ruin peoples day in high sec, are nothing more than players that just can't make the grade. Nothing more, nothing less.

Like I said, the low sec, and 0.0 pirates, flourish and get my salute. Tank your high sec Hulks people. It's that simple.

PS Natsett Amuinn I would support removing local in 0.0. It would be more interesting for sure. Maybe even low sec. In high sec, NFW.


A local that allows you to tell if it's friend or foe, gives you a false impression of the EVE universe.

I don't want local to be removed.
Do some people want it removed all together? I don't agree with that.

They should remove the ability to extract informatin out of it. I don't use the list in my chat, except for intel chanell.

Chat should open you up.
Have a broadcast chanell that only reaches so far as well.

your the standout from goonswarm then lol


lol thats exactly what i thought. I also pictured him with his ass facing in the wind
Snow Burst
Caldari State
#444 - 2012-05-28 22:28:52 UTC
being a model goonswarm is like taking a dump in a sea of **** itll standout but it doesnt make a diff of how people think about u lol

There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way. Or By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#445 - 2012-05-28 22:49:48 UTC
Solj RichPopolous wrote:
Mra Rednu wrote:
Solj RichPopolous wrote:
Simple Fix. Remove local and overhaul the scanner into something that resembles radar in an actual spaceship. The scanner is about the only thing in EVE that has not been changed much if at all since release in 05. No local but if I open up my scanner (and yes have it autoscan) ships will appear with the same color tagging system thats already in place for local. This alone adds so much more immersion to EVE imho. Theres not alot of work involved in intel with this game which is why it starts to seem so small so fast.


Please don't ever ask CCP to overhaul the d-scan, sure it not been changed since '05 but it bloody works so leave it be, there plenty of broken things for them to fix without breaking one of those things that works.

As a fairly casual pvp'er i would hate the removal of local, how many hours would be wasted looking for targets to hunt, each system has to be scanned and how would you pick up a wt from one of the many ships on scan.

Seriously you want people to scan each and every gate, belt, anom, mission site, visit every station the list is long before you can tick that system off you're list for not having a wt in........ but someone may of logged in or jumped in on one of the gates you can't see, so how long do you scan a system for ?

If local was removed you'd get more frustrated high sec pvp'ers like you're self, too scared to go in a WH, Lowsec or Nullsec because of some lame logistical excuse or for an unseen, presumed menace ( like finding people who are willing and able to shoot back ) , relying on a ever growing army of neutral's scouts to find their victims it will basically be like the suicide ganker providing a warp in, plus about as close to pvp as that is.

On that note I take it you'll also be asking for CCP to make it so all alt's on all the players accounts must be in the same corp, so the hunted have a chance to see themselves getting scouted out or expect them to have all the warnings taken away without being willing to give up something you're self ?



Lol check my kill board. Been in wh low and most frequently null. With small gang action not blobbing. I'm actually in hi sec atm to give this new merc stuff a try. But I find myself roaming low sec to fill in the gaps (check yesterday). Killing noob gankers solo. Especially those who chronically run MWDs.


lol wtf you talking about, i only picked out the part about the d-scan, then went on to expand about the op, sorry if it looked like anything else was aimed at you, but was just a way to make a point about leaving the d-scan alone.
Frying Doom
#446 - 2012-05-28 22:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Blabb3r M0uth B11tch wrote:
I'm of an opinion of this. HIgh Sec PVP isn't even about the PVP aspect of the game. My opinion is there are a few players out there that feel CCP is encroaching on there ability to absolutely ruin someones day. IE, it's not about PvP at all, but just making people miserable period, and your desperate desires to do so.

Believe it or not, there are actually very successful pirates that operate in 0.0 on a daily basis. I totally respect those guys and gals.

My personnel feelings is you high sec people, fighting for the right to be able to ruin peoples day in high sec, are nothing more than players that just can't make the grade. Nothing more, nothing less.

Like I said, the low sec, and 0.0 pirates, flourish and get my salute. Tank your high sec Hulks people. It's that simple.

PS Natsett Amuinn I would support removing local in 0.0. It would be more interesting for sure. Maybe even low sec. In high sec, NFW.


A local that allows you to tell if it's friend or foe, gives you a false impression of the EVE universe.

I don't want local to be removed.
Do some people want it removed all together? I don't agree with that.

They should remove the ability to extract informatin out of it. I don't use the list in my chat, except for intel chanell.

Chat should open you up.
Have a broadcast channel that only reaches so far as well.

You hit the nail on the head. Null Local should not tell anyone who is in the system unless they are broadcasting at which point they are fair game.

I would even goes so far as to say anyone radiating command links like Fleet assistance modules should probably show up as well as the signal radiates through a whole system and would be as easy to hide as a mountain.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#447 - 2012-05-28 23:38:46 UTC
Make the game a mysterious and true space experience. The baddies can adapt or be replaced by a more worthwhile demographic.
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#448 - 2012-05-28 23:48:40 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

You hit the nail on the head. Null Local should not tell anyone who is in the system unless they are broadcasting at which point they are fair game.

I would even goes so far as to say anyone radiating command links like Fleet assistance modules should probably show up as well as the signal radiates through a whole system and would be as easy to hide as a mountain.



The one thing you fail to understand. This is only your opinion. It can be right, or it can be wrong. On the same principal, I am happy with the way local behaves. Right or wrong, thats my opinion. The fact remains, local is in the game, and your opinion as this stands, is not that of CCP's atm.

Everytime you log into the game, you agree to play the game as it stands. That also includes playing with local, in hi/low, null sec. Moaning about something you have already agreed upon is bordering on the hypocritical. Sure, feel free to offer suggestions. Nothing wrong in that, but to argue against mechanics of a game, that the makers have deemed appropriate, and lets be fair, the majority of players seem to want in the game. Proves that there is chance of your opinion being wrong, rather than right.



o7
Frying Doom
#449 - 2012-05-29 00:06:07 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

You hit the nail on the head. Null Local should not tell anyone who is in the system unless they are broadcasting at which point they are fair game.

I would even goes so far as to say anyone radiating command links like Fleet assistance modules should probably show up as well as the signal radiates through a whole system and would be as easy to hide as a mountain.



The one thing you fail to understand. This is only your opinion. It can be right, or it can be wrong. On the same principal, I am happy with the way local behaves. Right or wrong, thats my opinion. The fact remains, local is in the game, and your opinion as this stands, is not that of CCP's atm.

Everytime you log into the game, you agree to play the game as it stands. That also includes playing with local, in hi/low, null sec. Moaning about something you have already agreed upon is bordering on the hypocritical. Sure, feel free to offer suggestions. Nothing wrong in that, but to argue against mechanics of a game, that the makers have deemed appropriate, and lets be fair, the majority of players seem to want in the game. Proves that there is chance of your opinion being wrong, rather than right.



o7

I am always willing to assume my ideas are right, wrong, laughable, insane, completely demented or worse.

But the one thing that the history of this game has taught us is: If you don't fight for your ideas they will never happen (and then CCP will do something even crazier).
I will not tell you your opinion is wrong, it's your opinion, your perspective so how can it be wrong. It may differ from my opinion but I own mine as well. I will tell you if I believe predictions you make are wrong, or if I believe you are just talking out your butt.

And just because the game is the way it is now does not mean I or anyone else should not argue for change.
BTW I prefer not to use the words Majority on the forums as most of the games players never come here and don't know what we are arguing about. We are all Lobby groups here all with specific view points, no one here should ever believe they are with or against the majority of EvE players on any point, that way leads to madness.

By your argument no one should have complained about Incarna, they all logged in, all agreed to the EULA and TOS and got shafted. Are you implying everyone who was pissed over their computers blowing up and the ability to buy $70 monicles should have been happy instead as this was CCP's view for the future?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#450 - 2012-05-29 00:12:19 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Make the game a mysterious and true space experience. The baddies can adapt or be replaced by a more worthwhile demographic.

Wormholes are thaddaway ------------->

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#451 - 2012-05-29 00:16:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Lord Zim wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Make the game a mysterious and true space experience. The baddies can adapt or be replaced by a more worthwhile demographic.

Wormholes are thaddaway ------------->


Zim go away. Shoo! You have no constructive arguments to add to the thread just spam. Your opinion is so dull and inane to read on every single page that you should be embarrassed for forcing the public to have to sift through it. You won't be the reason local goes or stays. Believe it.

Wormholes have no relevance to issue at hand bar giving you something you believe deflects the issue.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#452 - 2012-05-29 00:19:59 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Zim go away. Shoo! You have no constructive arguments to add to the thread just spam. Your opinion is so dull and inane to read on every single page that you should be embarrassed for forcing the public to have to sift through it. You won't be the reason local goes or stays. Believe it.

I'm providing far more factual information to this thread than you've done.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#453 - 2012-05-29 00:27:14 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

I am always willing to assume my ideas are right, wrong, laughable, insane, completely demented or worse.

But the one thing that the history of this game has taught us is: If you don't fight for your ideas they will never happen (and then CCP will do something even crazier).
I will not tell you your opinion is wrong, it's your opinion, your perspective so how can it be wrong. It may differ from my opinion but I own mine as well. I will tell you if I believe predictions you make are wrong, or if I believe you are just talking out your butt.

And just because the game is the way it is now does not mean I or anyone else should not argue for change.
BTW I prefer not to use the words Majority on the forums as most of the games players never come here and don't know what we are arguing about. We are all Lobby groups here all with specific view points, no one here should ever believe they are with or against the majority of EvE players on any point, that way leads to madness.

By your argument no one should have complained about Incarna, they all logged in, all agreed to the EULA and TOS and got shafted. Are you implying everyone who was pissed over their computers blowing up and the ability to buy $70 monicles should have been happy instead as this was CCP's view for the future?



Thats just it, they didn't log in. By doing so they didn't agree to anything. Also if you had read my post properly, suggestions are a viable source of input, against something. Especially when the voice of the majority (lets say forum dwellers) is against it too.



o7
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#454 - 2012-05-29 00:28:47 UTC
The fact that you repeatedly dismiss people who point out that wormholes have everything you are asking for sort of belies your claim that you want EVE to "grow some balls". If I didn't know better, I'd think you were some kind of highsec shitheel who wants easy-mode ganks.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#455 - 2012-05-29 00:33:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Wormholes do not have access to everything i'm after. They have no access to local market hubs, freighter traffic worth mentioning, nor can I find a select target I may be after unless they so happen to come through one of 2500 I may be in. I'll stop dismissing points when one is actually made.

And the whole youre hisec you're this or that is juvenile at best. I could say if you're nullsec youre an irrelevant ***** to the alliance leader. It would fit most.

I'm hisec because I choose to be and nothing else matters to that point. And it has no relevance on the gamebreaking, immersion destroying, amateur function we call local chat.
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#456 - 2012-05-29 00:35:35 UTC
I'll take that an admission that you are in fact just a risk-averse "pirate" looking for easy-mode ganks.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#457 - 2012-05-29 00:37:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Milton Middleson wrote:
I'll take that an admission that you are in fact just a risk-averse "pirate" looking for easy-mode ganks.


You can take it however you want. I have no doubts you have no intention of actually thinking about the points being made. You're another of the narrowminded cretins that can't hack it in a hardcore & visceral game. (Of which EVE isn't atm)

And like many of the midget minded troglodytes, when an argument is presented to you in which your intellect can't overcome you resort to labeling, alienation and assumptions.

Thanks for your opinion though, contemplate how much i'm going to ponder on it.
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#458 - 2012-05-29 00:45:27 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Wormholes do not have access to everything i'm after. They have no access to local market hubs, freighter traffic worth mentioning, nor can I find a select target I may be after unless they so happen to come through one of 2500 I may be in. I'll stop dismissing points when one is actually made.

And the whole youre hisec you're this or that is juvenile at best. I could say if you're nullsec youre an irrelevant ***** to the alliance leader. It would fit most.

I'm hisec because I choose to be and nothing else matters to that point. And it has no relevance on the gamebreaking, immersion destroying, amateur function we call local chat.



Acually WH's do offer you exactly what you are after. NO LOCAL. You dont need to live in a WH to hunt in a WH. Agueing that there is no Tradehubs is a moot aguement with this fallicy of yours. You argue that if your "Prey" cant see you, they they dont dock up. The reverse of this is. If you cant see them you have to work for your kills. The only difference between WH's and Hi with no local, is you cannot use your valued Locator agent for WH's. Hell you dont even have to WD, WH dwellers.

The only reason YOU do not want to go into WH's is possibly that you are scared that you may actually meet REAL PvPer's and fail.


o7
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#459 - 2012-05-29 00:50:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Milton Middleson
A self-diagnosed sociopath is hurling florid verbiage at me in an attempt to divert attention away from the discrepancies between what he claims to want and what his suggestions and in-game activities reveal about his genuine desires. I am mortified.

Literally anything in EVE would be more hardcore and visceral than what you are doing right now. Miners and mission-runners take more risks than you do. So for you to claim that I or anyone else can't hack in a really hardcore game is utterly risible.
Frying Doom
#460 - 2012-05-29 00:54:14 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:

Thats just it, they didn't log in. By doing so they didn't agree to anything. Also if you had read my post properly, suggestions are a viable source of input, against something. Especially when the voice of the majority (lets say forum dwellers) is against it too.

o7

So now you are saying peoples computers started to fry because they thought about incarna.

By that idea we would have a suggestion box on the eve site and the forums would just be Role playing and market checks and CCP could "mediate" them to their hearts content.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!