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Frying Doom
#181 - 2012-05-27 02:47:42 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So in another words you couldn't hack it if Null actually became hard like it was meant to be.

Might I suggest Hello Kitty Online for all you hard nullsec types (that just seem to want low risk isk) it might give you the safe feeling your looking for.


Coming from a guy who dodges wardecs that IS pretty funny.

Is that the best come back you have. I get you guys to war dec an inactive corp and move on so you waste your money and look like a pile of incompetent boobs and all I get is I dodged a war dec.

Yeah I did dodge it. It was aimed at me you missed like so many of Goonswarms ideas it was pure FAIL.

You guys are having a good year.
1) 10,058 wasted votes you got out meta gamed on.
2) Burn Jita as a leadership exercise just showed that Null needs changes if you can just walk away for a weekend. Imagine the Roman army in lawless space like Britain in say 72 AD. What do you think would have happened if the legionaries buggered off to London for a weekend. You showed very well Null is too safe.
3) You have shown the whole game you are a bunch of school yard bullies with your "They argued with me, lets war dec them" mentality.
4) Shown to everyone that you are just a bunch of carebears that love to hide in your null sec castles using locall to run away like scared children when ever you can't out number the enemy 5 to1 or more.
5) You are easily tricked into wasting money on war decing inactive corps.

Goonswarm have lost your way, you were one Great, now you are a Great joke

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#182 - 2012-05-27 02:47:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Lord Zim wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Yes I will assert I have an understanding of human nature.

If you do, then you're pretty good at hiding it.

Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Because somehow when your awe inspiring mega fleet encounters a fleet 1/10th its size its more challenging than 5 on 10,15, or 20? I can provide you a broom if you require more straws to grasp.

I'd love to see where you get the "1/10th its size", since most of the fleets we engaged were between 200 and up towards 900.

Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Then its settled. If a risk averse nullbear such as yourself can make it, local is absolutely an unnecessary game retarding protection.

I don't live in null, I join fleets in null.


I love winning. You're shooting blanks Zim. You have no real discourse, no worthwhile counter opinion. Convoluted rhetoric is your peak. Im done for the night, ill be on tomorrow sometime to bring this issue again to the forefront. Convoluted might be giving you to much credit though. Remedial is probably a better fit.

Remedial
2. (Social Science / Education) denoting or relating to special teaching, teaching methods, or material for backward and slow learners
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#183 - 2012-05-27 02:50:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
Frying Doom wrote:
5) You are easily tricked into wasting money on war decing inactive corps.


Hi we're holding a cooking contest with 45 billion ISK in prizes, we're funding Hulkageddon and we dropped 100 billion ISK on giving Tornadoes to a bunch of bored goons to celebrate things. If you think that wardec fees are anything resembling a "waste of money" for us you're pretty wrong.

You are absolutely clueless about nullsec gameplay, having lived in hisec the whole time you've played the game save for a few months you spent in a dying alliance that couldn't hold its own despite having a lot more supercapitals, a similar sized coalition and funny little events occurring in their favor like the bubbles disappearing from their supercapital staging tower. Your attempts to participate in this discussion only show how little you know - you only want local removed because you want to join the chorus around ~something~ and hey you might as well argue with teh gooniez about how risk averse they are when you dodge wardecs, lest anybody interrupt your peaceful mission running.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

specializt
State War Academy
Caldari State
#184 - 2012-05-27 03:01:13 UTC  |  Edited by: specializt
Richard Desturned wrote:

You are absolutely clueless about nullsec gameplay, having lived in hisec the whole time you've played the game save for a few months you spent in a dying alliance that couldn't hold its own despite having a lot more supercapitals, a similar sized coalition and funny little events occurring in their favor like the bubbles disappearing from their supercapital staging tower. Your attempts to participate in this discussion only show how little you know - you only want local removed because you want to join the chorus around ~something~ and hey you might as well argue with teh gooniez about how risk averse they are when you dodge wardecs, lest anybody interrupt your peaceful mission running.


Indeed. I think ze goonays need to gank in mission-sites in high sometime ... you guys got a few tornados left after the last project, yes? How about it?
Frying Doom
#185 - 2012-05-27 03:09:55 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
5) You are easily tricked into wasting money on war decing inactive corps.


Hi we're holding a cooking contest with 45 billion ISK in prizes, we're funding Hulkageddon and we dropped 100 billion ISK on giving Tornadoes to a bunch of bored goons to celebrate things. If you think that wardec fees are anything resembling a "waste of money" for us you're pretty wrong.

So your saying war dec fees are too cheap and should be scaled comparing the size of the aggressor to the size of the defender. What would you recommend as a fair price for a 9089 man alliance decing a 4 man corp, besides pathetic of course?

Richard Desturned wrote:
You are absolutely clueless about nullsec gameplay, having lived in hisec the whole time you've played the game save for a few months you spent in a dying alliance that couldn't hold its own despite having a lot more supercapitals, a similar sized coalition and funny little events occurring in their favor like the bubbles disappearing from their supercapital staging tower. Your attempts to participate in this discussion only show how little you know - you only want local removed because you want to join the chorus around ~something~ and hey you might as well argue with teh gooniez about how risk averse they are when you dodge wardecs, lest anybody interrupt your peaceful mission running.

Well besides the insults I have spent alot more time than than in Null but left because it was BORING. I want local removed, Sov changed and Jump drives nerfed because Null is a stagnant sore on EvE.
Oh and as usual for your failed quotes I don't run missions either.

On the war dec we differ and this is probably why you like lord Zim don't seem to understand balance. You would consider a war of 9089 to 4 balanced, I however do not. Null is unbalanced and boring, how many opinions do you need before you see you are only speaking of your own interests.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Blabb3r M0uth B11tch
Doomheim
#186 - 2012-05-27 03:15:49 UTC
Please keep going, this is so cool.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#187 - 2012-05-27 03:17:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
Frying Doom wrote:
So your saying war dec fees are too cheap and should be scaled comparing the size of the aggressor to the size of the defender. What would you recommend as a fair price for a 9089 man alliance decing a 4 man corp, besides pathetic of course?


Wardecs would still be cheap for us because ~80 tech moons~

Frying Doom wrote:
Well besides the insults I have spent alot more time than than in Null but left because it was BORING. I want local removed, Sov changed and Jump drives nerfed because Null is a stagnant sore on EvE.
Oh and as usual for your failed quotes I don't run missions either.

On the war dec we differ and this is probably why you like lord Zim don't seem to understand balance. You would consider a war of 9089 to 4 balanced, I however do not. Null is unbalanced and boring, how many opinions do you need before you see you are only speaking of your own interests.


Or you can admit that you are risk-averse and you want local removed because you don't want the enemies knowing that you're moving through their space because it's too hard to come up with tactics to mitigate local. You don't want nullsec to be hard, you want it to be hilariously easy for one side (see the idea you agreed with about showing only members of the sov-holding alliance in local) and completely broken for anybody who wishes to do anything in that space without being surrounded by 60 friendlies.

You don't care about balance, you care about getting easy kills. You dodged that wardec despite the easy opportunity to get a few kills out of it, while inviting everyone in the game to assist you (and get stuck at war with us, 'heh') because you cannot fight your own battles. This is why you ditched BTA, this is why you asked everyone to come to your aid.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2012-05-27 03:20:36 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
I love winning. You're shooting blanks Zim. You have no real discourse, no worthwhile counter opinion. Convoluted rhetoric is your peak. Im done for the night, ill be on tomorrow sometime to bring this issue again to the forefront. Convoluted might be giving you to much credit though. Remedial is probably a better fit.

Funny, you're the one avoiding the topic as hard as you can, not me.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Frying Doom
#189 - 2012-05-27 03:27:33 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So your saying war dec fees are too cheap and should be scaled comparing the size of the aggressor to the size of the defender. What would you recommend as a fair price for a 9089 man alliance decing a 4 man corp, besides pathetic of course?


Wardecs would still be cheap for us because ~80 tech moons~

Frying Doom wrote:
Well besides the insults I have spent alot more time than than in Null but left because it was BORING. I want local removed, Sov changed and Jump drives nerfed because Null is a stagnant sore on EvE.
Oh and as usual for your failed quotes I don't run missions either.

On the war dec we differ and this is probably why you like lord Zim don't seem to understand balance. You would consider a war of 9089 to 4 balanced, I however do not. Null is unbalanced and boring, how many opinions do you need before you see you are only speaking of your own interests.


Or you can admit that you are risk-averse and you want local removed because you don't want the enemies knowing that you're moving through their space because it's too hard to come up with tactics to mitigate local. You don't want nullsec to be hard, you want it to be hilariously easy for one side (see the idea you agreed with about showing only members of the sov-holding alliance in local) and completely broken for anybody who wishes to do anything in that space without being surrounded by 60 friendlies.

You don't care about balance, you care about getting easy kills. You dodged that wardec despite the easy opportunity to get a few kills out of it, while inviting everyone in the game to assist you (and get stuck at war with us, 'heh') because you cannot fight your own battles. This is why you ditched BTA, this is why you asked everyone to come to your aid.


I left BTA because they are a great alliance and I thought it was crappy that they got war dec'd because you were after me.

Like I have said before if you want safe in EvE try Hi-sec or more to your pace Hello Kitty.

As to the cost of war decs now you are saying you get too much isk from you tech moons. You keep saying Null should not be made more dangerous then keep giving reasons why it should be.

As to the war dec you got made a joke move on.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#190 - 2012-05-27 03:32:10 UTC
lol forced to quit alliance, forced to quit own corp in the face of a wardec
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#191 - 2012-05-27 03:36:29 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
As to the cost of war decs now you are saying you get too much isk from you tech moons. You keep saying Null should not be made more dangerous then keep giving reasons why it should be.


Oh, you mean tech moons are risk-free? It's not like anybody can form up a fleet to take them right off of your hands, no siree.

But you're digressing here - why should nullsec be more dangerous than wormholes for only a fraction of the rewards?

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#192 - 2012-05-27 03:37:27 UTC
Came expecting new methods in agriculture, left slightly disappointed.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#193 - 2012-05-27 03:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
Frying Doom wrote:
Like I have said before if you want safe in EvE try Hi-sec or more to your pace Hello Kitty.

Good thing you didn't run away from a wardec screaming like a little girl, or this comment would look pretty ironic.

Frying Doom wrote:
As to the cost of war decs now you are saying you get too much isk from you tech moons. You keep saying Null should not be made more dangerous then keep giving reasons why it should be.

If only we did say that nullsec should be made more dangerous by, oh I dunno, making systems easier to take and lose, or for stations to be destructible.

If only...

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#194 - 2012-05-27 03:43:21 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
making systems easier to take and lose, or for stations to be destructible.


those aren't meaningful changes to the "hurf blurf nerf local" crowd because the only meaningful changes are the ones that help them pad their killboards more easily

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Frying Doom
#195 - 2012-05-27 03:54:06 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Like I have said before if you want safe in EvE try Hi-sec or more to your pace Hello Kitty.

Good thing you didn't run away from a wardec screaming like a little girl, or this comment would look pretty ironic.

Frying Doom wrote:
As to the cost of war decs now you are saying you get too much isk from you tech moons. You keep saying Null should not be made more dangerous then keep giving reasons why it should be.

If only we did say that nullsec should be made more dangerous by, oh I dunno, making systems easier to take and lose, or for stations to be destructible.

If only...

You got made to look like fools move on, you war dec'd an inactive corp.

Oh and I do agree Sov needs to be changed amongst other things. I notice you seem to skip over the parts you cannot argue with or miss read them. You have had alot of people tell you are loosing the argument so I suppose you should be given points for stubbornness.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#196 - 2012-05-27 04:05:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
Frying Doom wrote:
You have had alot of people tell you are loosing the argument so I suppose you should be given points for stubbornness.

I've been told I've lost the argument by you and Caliph. You ran away from a wardec screaming like a little girl, Caliph just wardecs hisec pubbies and ganks them, and keeps averting the topic when I start pushing him a little.

You'll excuse me if I take both your proclamations of victory with a pinch of salt.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Frying Doom
#197 - 2012-05-27 04:23:31 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
You have had alot of people tell you are loosing the argument so I suppose you should be given points for stubbornness.

I've been told I've lost the argument by you and Caliph. You ran away from a wardec screaming like a little girl, Caliph just wardecs hisec pubbies and ganks them, and keeps averting the topic when I start pushing him a little.

You'll excuse me if I take both your proclamations of victory with a pinch of salt.

As I'm not a hi-sec resident I couldn't care about your war dec. Said it before, will say it again you guys are a joke and as noted in above posts have clearly shown for the whole of eve that Null is safe and Boring.

If you only think its us 2 saying your arguments fall flat keep reading.

As shown Goonswarm want a nice safe null sec. Keep up your complaining you really look like you only want to keep your easy lives in Null no matter what the cost.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#198 - 2012-05-27 04:26:09 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
As shown Goonswarm want a nice safe null sec.

You do too.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Frying Doom
#199 - 2012-05-27 04:35:28 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
As shown Goonswarm want a nice safe null sec.

You do too.

No more exciting and changeable not stagnant and boring.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#200 - 2012-05-27 04:42:53 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
As shown Goonswarm want a nice safe null sec.

You do too.

No more exciting and changeable not stagnant and boring.

Such a pity "your" changes would cause it to be stagnant and boring on a daily basis, then.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat