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I think I know what the problem is guys.... its me. I have only helped them beta test 2 things recently... Incarna and now this. I should just stop beta testing eve features, it never ends well...

Omghod!

Don't you people play this game?

Inventory management is now a multi step nightmare, Orca ops with fleet members near impossible to manage, multi-step window opening results in screen fills when *shift* is missed, Corp hangars cumbersome....you've heard it all.
But my grand daughter said it best: Gran dad...on my Mac everything is tabs and i can go anywhere and find anything fast..but your game has lost that, it's no fun and too much work"

Yep.

Give us the option to return to the previous inventory system , please.

What I find reprehensible is apparently this Fubar of a system was rejected by the player testers that encountered it.

Who made this disastorous decision?

If I owned shares, I'd want a head.

Solarius Elrond and alt TorontoSp

(yes the real one)

I spent about an hour using the new inventory, and noticed one bug, and several obnoxious inconveniences:

The bug:

After saving a set of filters, the inventory panel would not unfilter everything, despite having closed the filter building panel. In my case, I had just finished building a filter of Armor tanking mods. When I finished, I saved and closed, but unlike how it is supposed to behave normally, the screen stayed filtered, despite me having no filters checked. Checking and unchecking the armor filter did nothing, and checking any other filters resulted in a blank inventory screen. Closing and reopening did nothing. Only when I edited the armor filter and closed the filter editing panel did it fix itself.

The obnoxious inconveniences:

While assembling a filter, I noticed that the ALL option is the default. Building a filter with multiple options always resulted in a blank inventory with this checked. ANY should be the default, as ALL is really only practical when you are looking for one specific module type with additional parameters, such as meta level. Perhaps I misunderstood how it worked, but It seemed counter-intuitive to have it set as the default.

Energy Weapons, Hybrids, and Projectiles can be easily filtered with a single filter selection, but Missile Launchers require 8 separate selections. Why?

There are several inconsistencies in regards to naming schemes. For example, Energy Neutralizers are called Energy Destabilizers in the filters, despite actually being named "Energy Neutralizer." This also goes for Remote Armor Repair mods, as they are actually listed as Armor Repair Projectors, despite being named "Remote Armor Repair System I," and the skillbook being named "Remote Armor Repair Systems." Also, the Fueled Shield Booster should be reorganized to be alongside the rest of the shield mods, if possible. Conveniences, and all.

Rigs are listed as Modules, despite not really being modules.

When typing to quickly move to a selection, such as typing in SH to quickly move down to the shields, the dropdown will go to the proper spot, but it will not actually display on the list, but be the very next item on the list, just out of sight.

Occasionally when editing a set of filters, the dropdown will reset to the top of the list, even though in the selected box it may display "modules," moving to the sublists will give you lists of accessories. It will also do this if you type in the first letters. It will display "modules" as though you selected it, but not actually select it. Leaving it as the initial item on the menu would help clear up confusion.

UI sux big style.
I want a option to swich to old inventory.

None of the improvements I've seen suggested are going to make an improvement for me as far as I can see.

The lag and cumbersome system when salvaging a full mission is stupid - from one or two secs looting a can to ten or more sometimes while we all wait to see the 'estimated value' of scrap metal.

Some people seem to like the idea of this new system. Others clearly hate it and want the old one back.

Hopefully you install an option to choose between the new system and the old. I know from what I've read most people will probably revert to the old.

I think the "if its not broke dont fix it" principal applies here... surely there's bigger issues you could have been looking at to improve game play than making the inventory system unworkable for many.


Cheers.

Well, I managed to run three whole missions today. Go me. But I dislike the everything-in-one-window UI so much, I'm just going to bed. So frustrated. My favorite game is broken. After reading endless testimonials of players with similar sentiments, I can't believe CCP is pushing forward with this disaster. The amount of goodwill being destroyed by doing so is depressing. This UI should have never hit Tranquility.

But alas, all this has been written....repeatedly. Before I go for now, I also noticed tonight that I can no longer "look at" my drones in space. All I see now is a green box with a white cross in it. No drone. I restarted the client and the computer - same thing - my drones are gone. Since I constantly "look at" various ships, drones, etc, when in combat, this is yet another issue affecting my gameplay post-Inferno.

Can all of you see your drones in space? I saw them fine before the "upgrade."

One bit of good news, if you can call it that, is that we're up to 20K players tonight from last night's 18K.

Bon soir.

Yonis Kador

Sorry that I must repeat myself. But there was no answer to this question till now.
@CCP Soundwave; CCP Arrow; CCP Optimal:


I have to knwo this. Because my subscription depends on the right answer. CCP has to learn that they can not change fundamental things WITHOUT the community (again). If CCP hates the old inventory, they hate ALL of us old players including me and wants to get rid of them. And this would be a scandal!
But what can we expect when the responsible designer for this new UI stated: "We do not believe your feedback from the test servers."

NO! Why? I do not drag and drop things in my Windows 7. I copy and paste or use a right click. The current sh!t is absolute not compareable to an OS. By the way... why this shift+click thing? A normal doubleclick or an icon is more then enough.
And your argument does not work. It is also possible to have MULTIPLE instances of the explorer and several windows running in order to drag and drop things around. You do not have to use the crap solution with this shift shortcut. There is an icon on the Desktop (in EVE it would be the Neocom) which you double click and a new window pops up. So easy!



The idea is wrong in the beginning. I want not all of the available windows into only one; bonded together via a cumbersome tree view or any mysterious shortcut! I am ready to meet in Jita!

Bauloe, You're kidding right? I've never complained about anything. I've been here for four years and only joined the forum yesterday because of how negatively this is affecting my style of gameplay. I don't really care for incursions either, but you didn't hear me complain about that. Maybe you don't organize your inventory. Maybe you don't care about how your items are set up and how your system is set up, where your windows pop up, if you can conveniently drag and drop, what a double click should do, what goes where, on and on... Some players spend years setting up their systems to maximize workflow and this UI just ripped them all to shreds. It's offensive. Years of building a system that works well for you - now impossible with this all-inclusive, one-windowed system. It lags, takes a crapload of clicks and you've got to do it every time you jump/dock. I work all week and look forward to unwinding with this game. I buy PLEX with real money just to own things in EVE that I don't even need - to collect them. How I organize my things matters to me. It's a huge part of the draw. I enjoy the logisitcs of organization. Not to even mention how this has changed salvaging, looting, jetcanning, mining, etc. Extra clicks galore. You may very well think this new UI is more convenient and you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I'm not here to tell you that you're wrong. Opinions, by definition, cannot be wrong. But to suggest that people who have played for (in my case 4 years) and more in others, who have never complained - ever - are just bi*ching to bi*tch, is insulting. You can click shift, shift click, triple click, deal with lag, resize your windows, and celebrate the loss of your ship hangar, station hangar, and efficiency all you like. Just remember that it's taking you more clicks today to accomplish the same task that one click accomplished 3 days ago. Awesome, eh? As inventory is central to all players, in all professions, this has affected people in myriad ways. People will be affected differently. In my case, it's just disastrous. It broke my game. I hate it. I can't even think of a better phrase. I had no plans to buy or try D3 at all, but I'm actually considering it atm (today is payday) - and the fact that this is a true statement, given my devotion to this game (its the only MMO I've ever played) speaks volumes. I was looking forward to Inferno. I spent the better part of a day on the feature page reading about each thing and what new content was being added. I'm a fan of EVE. But this UI is so central to everything, it's impossible to enjoy anything else. It sucks. It's implementation sucks, its buggy, laggy, one-window design sucks, and the fact that its being forced on us despite hundreds upon hundreds of complaints sucks. I'm not unsubbing - yet- but if I "am" driven away, there will be others.

Bon soir. (again)

Yonis Kador

New Inventory is nice,

I like my screen space for seeing my spaceships and such instead of a bunch of windows. :)

One issue though, the Loot all was great when it came out, but with the change to the new inventory, the loot all button is about as efficient as things were before it came into existence. Instead of the moving to the next open jetcan, i "default" back to my cargohold and consequently have to click onto the next jetcan and then click the loot all button and be "defaulted" back to my cargohold after looting.

New Inventory is great, i think a few tweaks should get it working how it should.