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New dev blog: Unified Inventory Changes

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#721 - 2012-05-25 00:30:27 UTC
Elsewhere I saw a quote by CCP to the effect of:

- POS modules will be grouped by type into trees
- It will be more obvious as to which modules (batteries, labs, arrays, silos) are within range

In addition to those changes, we need a flip switch / check box on the tree portion of the UI that lets us completely hide any modules which are not within range. If I'm at the cluster of guns at the *top* of the POS tower, I am assuredly not interested in the cluster of guns which are now 40-80km away at the far side of the POS.

The UI should not waste time trying to show me the contents of modules which are not within reach.
vasuul
BLUE M00N Fetish Group
#722 - 2012-05-25 00:31:21 UTC  |  Edited by: vasuul
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Teclador wrote:
Plz plz plz, Kick out the New Inventory UI, reset back to the Old.

Noting Less, Nothing More...



They are not going back to the old UI. So suck it up and provide suggestions to make the new better for your uses.



I did make suggestions
possible fixes
1. and the best option revert to the old way or give us the option to revert to the old way ( best )
2. at least put the corp hangar to where it opens in a separate window by default and put the tab to open it back on the lower right where it belongs (fair )
3. Scream and cry its your way or the highway and if the players don't like it they can quit , please note we felt like we saw enough of this action during incarna and while this is an option on your part it is the worst possible option you have at your disposal
Marisol Shimaya
Doomheim
#723 - 2012-05-25 00:38:02 UTC
As paying customers , we have rights when the law is in this matter.
When they have change something and don't hear anything, ok that sounds good.
When we are complainning and they have change something we are not agreed on and
they have to change it back to what settings it was before they change it.

Sence it's many poeple complainning so much you in CCP have no choice in this matter
to give us back the old inventory box.


Copy this to text and posted in your post.

Fight For Our Rights

Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#724 - 2012-05-25 00:38:34 UTC
vasuul wrote:
For any of you that say there is nothing wrong with this system.....


Anyone typing such at this point is obviously a Goon Alt. I'd just ignore them.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
galrizian
Mini Vikings
#725 - 2012-05-25 00:44:45 UTC
no ones said this yet so i will :)

STATION CONTAINERS ARE NOW POINTLESS AND SHOULD BE REMOVED SINCE EVERYTHING IS IN 1 WINDOW AND THERE ARE FILTERS.

thats how i used to do it when i 1st started the game 4 years ago.................. but hey wait.............. i didnt have 1 millionth the amount of stuff ive got now.

so now ignore what i said at the start and just give us the old UI back
Damhtman
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#726 - 2012-05-25 00:47:56 UTC
Please give us the option to go back to the old way. The new way is too involved and to many options, I need simple. Please fix this.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#727 - 2012-05-25 00:48:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Did you guys not hear? CCP have just started a sponsorship with Logitech. They have been payed to lever in as many additional mouse clicks as possible to drive mouse hardware sales!

Honesty CCP, incarna, overview locking with mouse over and now this? Wha are we paying you for? I for one have lost faith that you are going to last much longer if you think that annoying your player base to make new players experience a little easier is a brilliant idea.

****, if this is the only way you can fix the game for new players, by ******* over all your old ones who have adapted and customised the old system to far higher standards of efficiency than your tarded unified inventory, you havent learned a single thing.

Revert, or make it possible to configure it to work the same as the old system. - That is my constructive comment, no other options as far as im concerned.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#728 - 2012-05-25 00:51:09 UTC
Just don't remove the option for "Merge 'Items' and 'Ships' in Station Panel" as that actually still works and isn't a massive pain to use.

(Watch them go and remove it right now)

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
vasuul
BLUE M00N Fetish Group
#729 - 2012-05-25 00:51:47 UTC
Marisol Shimaya wrote:
As paying customers , we have rights when the law is in this matter.
When they have change something and don't hear anything, ok that sounds good.
When we are complainning and they have change something we are not agreed on and
they have to change it back to what settings it was before they change it.

Sence it's many poeple complainning so much you in CCP have no choice in this matter
to give us back the old inventory box.


Copy this to text and posted in your post.


actually it is Their game and they have the right to make changes and even though we complain about it they can choose to ignore it .
No law is going to force them to give us the old system back
At the end of the day all we can hope is that they will listen to reason and do right by us .their customers .

now CCP Soundwave said new fixes were coming on Tuesday whether these will fix it only time will tell

so to reiterate your legal rights in eve are :
you have the right to pay a sub and log in as long as you are not banned
You have the right to log out or unsubscribe at anytime



LTC Vuvovich
Old-Timers Department
GF Company
#730 - 2012-05-25 00:55:44 UTC  |  Edited by: LTC Vuvovich
I dunno peeps...the more I think about this whole affair, the more I am reminded of the 'Matrix Trilogy'.

On the 1st hand, you have the players...whom are not much unliken to the denizens of Zion, deep, down, and far below in their little 'sandbox'...

On the2nd hand, you have the programmers of the machine world...

Should I have taken the red pill or the blue pill ???

Oh Neo, Wherefore Art Tho. Whom shall be our saviour now...?
Marisol Shimaya
Doomheim
#731 - 2012-05-25 00:56:54 UTC
vasuul wrote:
[quote=Marisol Shimaya]As paying customers , we have rights [quote]

actually it is Their game and they have the right to make changes and even though we complain about it they can choose to ignore it .
No law is going to force them to give us the old system back
At the end of the day all we can hope is that they will listen to reason and do right by us .their customers .

now CCP Soundwave said new fixes were coming on Tuesday whether these will fix it only time will tell

so to reiterate your legal rights in eve are :
you have the right to pay a sub and log in as long as you are not banned
You have the right to log out or unsubscribe at anytime





Don't make me laugh at you

Fight For Our Rights

vasuul
BLUE M00N Fetish Group
#732 - 2012-05-25 00:58:08 UTC
galrizian wrote:
no ones said this yet so i will :)

STATION CONTAINERS ARE NOW POINTLESS AND SHOULD BE REMOVED SINCE EVERYTHING IS IN 1 WINDOW AND THERE ARE FILTERS.

thats how i used to do it when i 1st started the game 4 years ago.................. but hey wait.............. i didnt have 1 millionth the amount of stuff ive got now.

so now ignore what i said at the start and just give us the old UI back



LoL don't suggest removal of station containers i have 4 bpos for em all researched already Cool
galrizian
Mini Vikings
#733 - 2012-05-25 00:59:42 UTC
vasuul wrote:
galrizian wrote:
no ones said this yet so i will :)

STATION CONTAINERS ARE NOW POINTLESS AND SHOULD BE REMOVED SINCE EVERYTHING IS IN 1 WINDOW AND THERE ARE FILTERS.

thats how i used to do it when i 1st started the game 4 years ago.................. but hey wait.............. i didnt have 1 millionth the amount of stuff ive got now.

so now ignore what i said at the start and just give us the old UI back



LoL don't suggest removal of station containers i have 4 bpos for em all researched already Cool



hehe m8 :)
Jonuts
The Arrow Project
#734 - 2012-05-25 00:59:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonuts
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Quote:
NO! We will not suck it up! This has broken the game for me, and many others. We were promised a new direction from CCP we were promised we'd be listened to. It's absolute betrayal of our faith and trust, and I am not going to tolerate it again.


It's ok I don't want your stuff.

Seriously folks thinking this is Incarna 2.0 are completely out of touch with reality in my opinion.

HTFU. Provide meaningful suggestions and move on.



For like the 30th time, rolling back to the old UI and hammering out a function Unified Inventory on the test server *IS* an extremely valid and meaningful suggestion. This should have never left the test server, and honestly, I do believe that scrapping it IS the better solution.

Most players don't want to beta test something on a live server. Especially after everyone that beta tested it on the test server wrote up all the reasons that it's ******* stupid. CCP didn't bother addressing jack **** until it hit live. That's definitely NOT how you're supposed to do this sort of stuff. If they can't be ****** to improve the "feature" on the test server, obviously they don't give a **** about their player base anymore, and it's become a game of office politics. The Unified Inventory is someones pet project and will get rammed through, damn the consequences.


Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
vasuul wrote:
For any of you that say there is nothing wrong with this system.....


Anyone typing such at this point is obviously a Goon Alt. I'd just ignore them.



Oh please. Goons could only wish they could troll the player base as badly as this UI does.
galrizian
Mini Vikings
#735 - 2012-05-25 01:07:35 UTC
Jonuts wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
[quote]NO! We will not suck it up! This has broken the game for me, and many others. We were promised a new direction from CCP we were promised we'd be listened to. It's absolute betrayal of our faith and trust, and I am not going to tolerate it again.


It's ok I don't want your stuff.

Seriously folks thinking this is Incarna 2.0 are completely out of touch with reality in my opinion.

HTFU. Provide meaningful suggestions and move on.



For like the 30th time, rolling back to the old UI and hammering out a function Unified Inventory on the test server *IS* an extremely valid and meaningful suggestion. This should have never left the test server, and honestly, I do believe that scrapping it IS the better solution.

Most players don't want to beta test something on a live server. Especially after everyone that beta tested it on the test server wrote up all the reasons that it's ******* stupid. CCP didn't bother addressing jack **** until it hit live. That's definitely NOT how you're supposed to do this sort of stuff. If they can't be ****** to improve the "feature" on the test server, obviously they don't give a **** about their player base anymore, and it's become a game of office politics. The Unified Inventory is someones pet project and will get rammed through, damn the consequences.


yeah m8... i was thinking that some massive share holders son or daughter got a job at CCP and this ***** what they came up with................in a word................nepatism :( its the downfall of all good things
vasuul
BLUE M00N Fetish Group
#736 - 2012-05-25 01:12:07 UTC
Jonuts wrote:


Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
vasuul wrote:
For any of you that say there is nothing wrong with this system.....


Anyone typing such at this point is obviously a Goon Alt. I'd just ignore them.



Oh please. Goons could only wish they could troll the player base as badly as this UI does.



LULZ P but true i remember someone saying hulkageddon was less annoying that this UI
Disdaine
#737 - 2012-05-25 01:20:19 UTC
Persistant windows please.

When I open a cargo container, I want to minimise the tree, shrink it down so it doesn't fill the whole screen, then have every other cargo container I open remember that state forever.

Allow us to remove the isk value bar and filter bar from certain windows and have them remember that state.

Do that and I'll be happy with my new multiple window unified inventory.

Feel sorry for the POS guys though.
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#738 - 2012-05-25 01:48:04 UTC
I'll repeat this again so people can't miss it.

CCP doesn't care. They are going to outwait everyone on this. Unless you're really going to unsub, and I am seriously considering dropping 2 of my 3 subs, then you can't affect what they are doing.

You have to understand that organizationally, rolling back this change would be a huge amount of egg on the face for CCP. They aren't going to take that sort of responsibility. Notice, no one has apologized for launching a bug riddled and unoptimized system that neglected the user testing. No one is going to be accountable for this, and no one we're talking to is going to make a change.

So just give it up. They aren't going to turn things around.

Btw, where are the CSM through all of this? I thought they represented the players. Useless.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Capsuleer Newton
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#739 - 2012-05-25 01:52:04 UTC
SigmaPi wrote:
The amount of bitching is unbelievable. I for one am extremely hopful for the future of this new system. Sure it's not perfect, but the 50 windows that never stuck just right was sure as hell not perfect either. I'd much rather them continue to strive for easier access than to just stick their heads in the ground and pretend there wasnt a problem. And if you didnt think there were problems with the old system, then you should check into a mental hospital. Just sayin.


yup, me too, next feature i would love's when i dock with a cargohold full of assorted modules, i'd like to see a button that says "auto-sort", and then my cargohold empties automatically to pre-defined station containers.LolLolLol
Capsuleer Newton
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#740 - 2012-05-25 01:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Capsuleer Newton
galrizian wrote:
no ones said this yet so i will :)

STATION CONTAINERS ARE NOW POINTLESS AND SHOULD BE REMOVED SINCE EVERYTHING IS IN 1 WINDOW AND THERE ARE FILTERS.

thats how i used to do it when i 1st started the game 4 years ago.................. but hey wait.............. i didnt have 1 millionth the amount of stuff ive got now.

so now ignore what i said at the start and just give us the old UI back


thought you only have a limit of 1000 stacks per station, unless CCP got rid of the limit.


WOW!!! i just got a "socket closed" right after moving 200 BPCs from a hold into the station's "Items" TwistedTwistedTwisted