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i wouldnt call it useless, but i agree there should be a button somewhere on the upper neocom kinda like the pin button, that will shrink down the bottom bar and the top bar to really minimize things to like 0 chrome perhaps even smaller than the old windows... so its just content shown that would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wicked And as always .... REMEMBER STATE OF THIS especially for the shortcut and wreck spawned windows....

How, tell me, can you improve on dung?

the shift+clcik has helped my issues but still doesn't help my massive amount or containers in space after a mission. With the old system i could pile one up in the bottom right corner or ym screen and then double clcik the rest and they would all stack underneath the one in the conner. then spam the "loot all" and I'm done...but now everytime i finish one in this tree system it reverts back to my cargo instead or the next loot can in line?!

I'm equally annoyed with the tower stuff and i have a POS with a ton of mods attached or "death star" as i've seen some refer to them on here. Again the shift click has helped me avoid this pain in my ass system but again i have to scroll through a list of mods to find what I want and then i find myself opening two new windows for the same mod just to get into two different divisions. Not to mention the long load times while it loads everything at the tower into that tree.

It feels like I need to take 2-3 extra steps just to get things done. I really do like the idea of giving us the option to opt out of this system but sadly doubt it will happen. I guess gone are the days of me being able to log on a minute or two before i leave for work to change work in my labs I guess.

This system was supose to make thigns more simple and I'm guessign streamline but seriously whast more simple then having two mods next to each other and clicking open hangers on each and then the click and drag to move thigns around? i'm not sure it can get more simpler then that right?!

The one tihng i do like is the new status bar on everything you open. I like the new look and how clear and large it is.

I apologize to all for my terrible grammer and spelling!

My only addition to this is that the "alt-C" (cargo hold) shortcut opened window needs to remember its size/position/settings based on the ship type which you were in when you opened it.

- Freighter? I probably have a large cargo hold window and seeing the # of items and value is useful to me.

- Interceptor? I use a tiny little window.

- Cap-boosted battleship? probably a mid-sized window so I can see how many cap charges and other goodies I have left

- Orca, in a mining fleet? Not only do I have the cargo hold open, but I also have the ore hold and one of the corp hangar windows open, ideally stacked in a tabbed method so I can drag-drop between those 3 locations quickly, while plucking ore out of jetcans

Love how one can make a suggestion on functionality and don't even hear anything about your suggestion for going on to a 3rd page...

I've got an idea you can consider. Why not make a new button on the top right of the window you have open that when toggled on it "makes persistent" the window. This can then be cached in the client the window orientation and status. Then every time you dock in the station the client checks the list of persistent windows and calls them up on screen automatically via encrypted script. This could also work for all stations if it shares the same type of window you wan't to open up. Would be a fairly small thing to cache.

"Open window(station_hangar) pos 1264x684 "

Like I have said before, you cant polish a turd but you can lacquer it.

Although naming pos mods is going to be nice and putting pos mods in to their own trees is better it still feels like managing a pos is going to be a massive pita. Take one of mine for example, 1 biochem reactor, 1 simple biochem reactor, 5 drug labs, a lab, 2 moon miners (lol) and 11 silos. Not to mention the guns etc.

It is still terribad and feels like a total step backwards from the previous ui.

From what I can tell they took quite a bit of it as it was on SiSi. If you watched Tippia's video regarding the problems the new systems has one of them was the fact that all windows were being reset each time he docked or undocked or jumped. As it is on TQ now I find that my cargo stays open as I jump and even if my separate ships hangar is closed when I redock it does at least open back into the same place :D

There was also the feedback thread on the SiSi forums there CCP Arrow posted a rather lengthy bit about how they really are listing up all the feedback from there. This is probably the resulting list more-so from SiSi that TQ (seeing as how the systems has only been up live on TQ for only a day)

I'd imagine that this stuff is only being mentioned now and not having been implemented yet (both absolutely in time and relative to this feature's release) is cause there is still likely a bit of "corporate-ism" within CCP to make sure projects get done within a specific timeline and in this case for the Inferno release yesterday. With that in mind they likely took whatever little things they could implement quickly as easily and put those tweaks out to TQ while drawing up plans to implement the bigger fixes. At the same time they also made sure they had saved off the SISI feedback and got out a fresh notebook out to write down the even greater feedback they'd get from it being on TQ.

There was also mention of the user testing thingy they wanted to get going. From what I can tell it's a fairly new process and hasn't quite got off the ground yet but I can see us taking benefit from it from subsequent Inferno releases and the expansion this winter :D

Personally I think the existence of this devblog should make all the naysayers shut up but they still keep whining! D:

What else can they possibly do?! And would all of you that want the old system back just tell them why so that they might be able to fix it into a way that you would accept? Just asking for the old system back isn't helping and no they aren't gonna let you have it. Besides, if you close off the tree view it feels EXACTLY the same. I understand the extra space being used up by the "estimated ISK value" thing but I wouldn't be surprised if they could make that expandable. And of course they are looking into the stuff about positions being saved correctly. I totally agree that the loot system now isn't exactly the most elegant thing atm but this blog should at least reassure that things will be fixed asap. Hell they already have Inferno 1.0.1 going out the door.

WORST F*CKING IDEA IN THE HISTORY OF POS IDEAS EVER CONCIEVED.

If they do this i'm so starting up a pos bashing corp to go start crashing peoples tech and neo moons without the need to scan LMFAO... warp on grid, look at name of the mods, ah tech, ya boys come on over this is the one we need to smash

Naming it yourself you can be smart about the naming conventions atleast and name it something your corp will know what it means but not joe shmoe in his cloaky

Nice start,

I did not read this entire thread so forgive me if someone has already said:

Calculating items worth should not be a default. It's a nice feature but please make it optional.

People need to be able to replicate what they had before, that is small cargo windows without clutter around the windows borders and the EVE client remembers how we want things. This probably means giving us some options or settings and give this new UI a heck of a lot more flexibility.

The treeview for ships, let me drag a ship off the treeview to make active when in hanger. Also, the treeview of ships would be nicer if there was an option to show fittings (under each ship you have Fitting which I can drop down and see the fittings. If you can do that then let me drag fittings off the treeview onto another ship or back into the hanger.

It's Unified? When I am in a station let me see EVERYTHING this includes stuff in station hanger, fittings on a ship etc. Someway to actually see everything in the hanger no matter where it's at, on a ship or in a station hanger.

Once this new Inventory system gets the kinks worked out you need to run not walk to redoing the Asset Manager, which honestly you should have started with before screwing with everything else. Please don't break existing functions with the Asset Manger when you do get to it.

Normally when CCP Soundwave speaks I usually dread it because he's about to screw with someones gameplay one way or another but today I want to thank him for not waiting a week to respond to the outcry over the new Inventory system.