Missions & Complexes

I have lived in a C5 for a year and i know very well what im talking about. The only area i have very little experience in is Low-sec. Don't assume anything just because my sec status isn't that bad. And im not abusing the word risk, just getting into perspective something that everyone forgot to mention.

"Oh incursions runners fly in shiny ships",
"no risk in incursions",
"shiny fleets pwnage in 5mins in NCO's",
"oh shiny fleets have no risk",
"ISK/H op in highsec incursions due to shiny fleets blitzing"

can you see the patterns here? Im sure the same would fair for wormhole corps who would use multibillion ships while doing sleeper sites in relative safety, just cause ppl don't know how to live in a wormhole don't expect me to be a complete newb and throw around snarking coments like that. Get your facts straight then we will talk =)

Useless posting on your part, either say something constructive or don't post at all, and i used to live in a c5, i left when they moved to c6. Sorry for derailing from the topic, either way the isk made in incursions was too much, but it was definitly not risk-free, i lost a bunch of ships in them, im sure most people can say the same...

lol You are one to talk Ronin...you are claiming to be more famous? I had not heard of you before this thread started by CCP Soundwave which he has obviously ignored and not once bothered to comment on.
Only thing you said or claimed of interest to me was the mention of a 6 minute OTA which is OBVIOUSLY not being done and they are stacking much like the old NCN's in which cruiser logi's could not enter into the right side . I trust CCP to look at & fix the Incursion problem in much the same timely manner FW problems were fixed & that is a good reason to keep the heat up.
CCP is also aware of the wing man not getting boosts issue but has not fixed that in how many years? All we got is a kludge way to give the Wing commander a boost by revoking them & giving them to another in a sqaud position in the same wing which only intermittantly works. Funniest thing I saw was a fleet mate's responce from a DEV to the error report she filled out & how it was closed with out a fix.

well, I ran incursion, I know it's risk-free. if you got blown up, you're doing something very wrong.

I believe both myself and Simi ran incursion before, we have enough knowledge to talk about incursion, it's risk-free

When I can jump into a highsec incursion system without appearing in local, warp to a site and engage everyone there without being concorded and without taking sec status loss then running highsec incursions will be comparable to wormholes. Until that's the case the two are not in any way comparable.

The only thing I can agree with is taking out the blitzing abilities in this game, you should allow everything but in moderation, Blitzing and farming a billion per day per character with 8 accounts should be dealt with silently, while the 99% should be rewarded, instead of punished to the point of, well that's a different subject.


as for incursions:
First I would revert almost ALL of the changes on a test server, but I would slowly tweek it to the point where "Blitzing" or braindead farming, as I like to call it, is not possible then let it go live.
The key word is Random, mix damage types up, the omni tank, ditch it, make that completely random, DPS of enemy ships, completely random, if entire fleets have to go poof every 25,000 runs then so be it, running to many missions? silent nerf that.
This includes blitz Ratting, blitz mission running, Nulsec blitz plexing (not to be confused with Ninja activities, like looting, mining plexing, normal mission running, normal faction warfare most merchant activities.

there are some things you should not mess with, for example,some run 1-5 level 4's per day while they study, sometimes I slowly merchant from region to region, im sure there are people at work, enjoying their time on eve, solo, peacefully without causing a rukkus, creating to much ISK or bothering any one, just a few situations you might want to consider before changing certain game economics/mechanics to avoid hurting this type of productive population.

Ratting, I would simply cut the bounty's for regions, if a region hits a certain amount of bounty collected per hour to cost of ships destroyed in systems at certain times of the day, I would just have bounty penalties put into place, every X amount given out would lower the collectable bounties by 10% till it hits zero, this would pretty much give botters and blitzers quite the funny finger and actually give the players a better outlook with deflation, stability and inflation.

A few hardcore mission runners blitzing level 4 sites like there's no tomorrow, maybe, randomize the agro, or something along those lines to stop the blitzing, make it posible to do it AFK, but make it so that you cant go making 300M per hour with 3-6 accounts, once again get some statistics together, get the prying and do what you must without actually nerfing it for the 99%

I would also, NOT throw around "Across the board" neft bats, I would first investigate the community, as in literally pry into each and every singles personal life in eve I.E. decrease the cashflow into the game, but not to fast, this would cause a market stall, like the one that almost crushed the EURO a few times already, thought the damage is obvious.
and not to freely, like the type of economy greenspan deployed back in the mid 1980's Letting merchants have to much control only ends in disaster, because most are to greedy to know when to stop, they will save their own arse and let millions die so they can make their questionable profits.

Also, a friend has braught to my attention, that Meta items are being seeded into the game to fast, I.E. more meta 4 items then there are people who could possibly ever use them, atleast study a few items per day and see what needs be done to balance that aspect of the game.

The Nerf anything highsec threads where and still being created where/are mostly alts of people who have an interest in increasing the value of their real estate, I.E. Nulsec top alliances, this is meant to create an imbalance in the game in their favor.
I.E. an indirect form of playing "Im getting richer your getting poorer"
If these are your alts, and you guys just want to see some hardcore fighting like back in the day, Break up those super top alliances and make new ones form, Literally do it yourselves if you have to.
The more "Top alliances" there are moving about and in existence, the more destruction you will see.

and for the love of everything holy learn how to identify trolls, they are obviously NOT obvious, a troll just does self serving things, in most cases the first thing I do is, identify a post as political or not, politicians are the worst trolls.

Hope that helps, thanks for reading to the end.

** This!!

For thoes who say theres no risk in Incursion, It is obvious that what you are really saying is that another player cant come blow you up without repercussions, Other wise you make your self a fool saying there are no risks in incursions.

There are threats both from t he sites them selves and from players in many aspects. Either by the obvious suicide ganking or logi griefing. To late broadcasting, Full room aggro, disconnect burnt out module. The list goes on and on. So no there is risk maby not to what some believe it should be. But the risk is there.

This has been discussed, read through thread if you wish for our opinion on it. Your concept of risk is pitiful.

Try flying in a wormhole and you'll see what we mean by risk.

lol Lately every thread I've started you've bumped with your trolling posts lol

Your arguements are repeating over & over again personal attacks against me: telling me, baselessly to stop posting lol keep on crying in your attempt to close the thread maybe eventually your posts will get cleaned up by the moderators .
I see how you are trying to bait CCP Affinity to lock the tread started by CCP SoundWave...
They teach that in Troll school?