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How Receptive Would Players Be to Ranked PvP Tournament Style Play?

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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#1 - 2012-05-21 11:03:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginseng Jita
Let's toss this out as an ideal. What if, there were a place where two pilots enter and only one pilot leaves? This place would be an arena of sorts. Two gates, at opposite ends of a giant arena floating in space. Let's say the arena is 100km in circumference. A giant sphere.

When you wish to fight someone in this arena, you agree to a duel by entering your names in a dueling box. Once both parties agree. One pilot flies to one gate entrance. The other flies to the other gate entrance. Only the two pilots who agreed to fight can participate. The arena is a sealed environment. No other ships may enter the arena when a fight is in progress. Once you enter it is to the death.

Only ships of the same class may enter. They can be fitted any way a pilot wishes. So in other words frigate vs frigate. Or BC vs BC.

You cannot fight the same pilot more than twice during any given month.

All pilots who wish to participate in the matches must make an entry fee of X amount of ISK. This will go into payout pool.

The more victories you achieve the higher your ranking. Once a month the topped ranked pilots for that month will receive a monetary prize for their efforts. The more people that participate the higher the prize winnings.

There would be rankings for frigates, cruisers, battle cruisers and battleships.

At the end of the year - the top ranked pilot for the year will get a fully fitted faction version of the ship that they flew during the season.

At the end of the year the rankings reset and the matches start all over again.

The game would track and list win - losses of those who participate.

Also...as an added benefit - other players could place bets on the fights.

So - is this something anyone else would like to see in game?
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#2 - 2012-05-21 11:10:45 UTC
This feature would take the open-endedness right out of EVE combat. If this ever came to pass, especially the ranked leaderboards thing, I would quit the game for good.

I wouldn't be opposed, however, to a simple "glove slap" feature that would create a mutual flag between two people (not between a person and a corporation via current can flag). No rankings, no restrictions, but add a line to kill mails to signify a duel has taken place. Would work well with the addition of remote RR to kill mails. Note, however, that RR in this case should still be possible. This is a "sandbox" after all.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#3 - 2012-05-21 11:12:58 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
This feature would take the open-endedness right out of EVE combat. If this ever came to pass, especially the ranked leaderboards thing, I would quit the game for good.

I wouldn't be opposed, however, to a simple "glove slap" feature that would create a mutual flag between two people (not between a person and a corporation via current can flag). No rankings, no restrictions, but add a line to kill mails to signify a duel has taken place. Would work well with the addition of remote RR to kill mails. Note, however, that RR in this case should still be possible. This is a "sandbox" after all.



How does this take the open-endedness out of EVE. If anything it gives players more reason to PvP. It is also to the death. Things will still go boom. This just gives another option to make things go boom.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#4 - 2012-05-21 11:16:58 UTC
It removes open-endedness by removing the ability to win by using underhanded tactics.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#5 - 2012-05-21 11:19:32 UTC
If you want to organise, advertise and enforce such an operation please feel free. For myself I'll give it a miss, WH space provides ample opportunity for PvP.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#6 - 2012-05-21 11:19:57 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
It removes open-endedness by removing the ability to win by using underhanded tactics.


Well then you wouldn't be one of the people this type of game play would be aimed at now would you? This is for pilots that have cajones. Not some pimple faced wannabe baddass.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#7 - 2012-05-21 11:22:51 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
It removes open-endedness by removing the ability to win by using underhanded tactics.


Well then you wouldn't be one of the people this type of game play would be aimed at now would you? This is for pilots that have cajones. Not some pimple faced wannabe baddass.

Okay guys, what do you think of my idea? What? You don't like it? You're a "pimple faced wannabe baddass" with no balls!

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Lipbite
Express Hauler
#8 - 2012-05-21 11:23:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Forget about idea to influence EVE development. Considering pace of development during last 3 years a.k.a. "we are busy creating Dust and World of Vampires" - it will take forever for them to do anything substantial. Be happy if they'll add few semi-useless (unless you are a ganker) ships per year + couple of modules.

Also thread will be moved to "suggestions".
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#9 - 2012-05-21 11:25:17 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
It removes open-endedness by removing the ability to win by using underhanded tactics.


Well then you wouldn't be one of the people this type of game play would be aimed at now would you? This is for pilots that have cajones. Not some pimple faced wannabe baddass.

Okay guys, what do you think of my idea? What? You don't like it? You're a "pimple faced wannabe baddass" with no balls!


Yes, you are, when you come in saying...that's not fair...we can't RR and use under handed tactics. This is about pilot vs pilot. Not a pilot gang banged by a dozen of your buddies and you.
Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
#10 - 2012-05-21 11:27:18 UTC
Its already hard enough to find fights. This would effectively kill all pvp other than big sov fights.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#11 - 2012-05-21 11:30:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
I never mentioned fairness. All I mentioned was keeping in spirit with this game's free-form, player-driven nature. Keep digging that hole deeper though.

Zoe Athame wrote:
Its already hard enough to find fights. This would effectively kill all pvp other than big sov fights.

The people who make suggestions like this don't get it though. They've never shot at another player in their lives, and want to be able to feel the water with their toes in an environment equivalent to a puddle after a light drizzle.

They also don't understand that they will still get their asses handed to them, because a gated arena doesn't account for player experience. They'll try it once, and then either never touch it again, or whine for CCP to give them free ships to play around with.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2012-05-21 11:33:07 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:

Well then you wouldn't be one of the people this type of game play would be aimed at now would you? This is for pilots that have cajones. Not some pimple faced wannabe baddass.


This is exactly for cajoneless, pimple-faced wannabes only.

Why not fly out and shoot some guys? You can compare yourself to others by using killboards.

What on earth would be the point of your suggestion?

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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#13 - 2012-05-21 11:33:51 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I never mentioned fairness. All I mentioned was keeping in spirit with this game's free-form, player-driven nature. Keep digging that hole deeper though.


Only one I see digging a hole is you dear. Keep whining that this kind of fight wouldn't be fair because you can't use gang-bang tactics. Really makes you look bad. As I said, this would be for pilots to pit their skills against other pilots. Pilots that think they have what it takes to make a name for themselves.

This isn't for someone that is too afraid to do this type of combat.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#14 - 2012-05-21 11:35:54 UTC
Roime wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:

Well then you wouldn't be one of the people this type of game play would be aimed at now would you? This is for pilots that have cajones. Not some pimple faced wannabe baddass.


This is exactly for cajoneless, pimple-faced wannabes only.

Why not fly out and shoot some guys? You can compare yourself to others by using killboards.

What on earth would be the point of your suggestion?


Actually I believe it is just the opposite. I believe only the best pilots would attempt to be the top pilot.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#15 - 2012-05-21 11:38:34 UTC
I don't think poker players should be executed for cheating, therefore I cheat at poker.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#16 - 2012-05-21 11:46:04 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:

Actually I believe it is just the opposite. I believe only the best pilots would attempt to be the top pilot.


Why would the best pilots leave their natural habitats for this artificial, arcade-style arena for fake fame? Nobody wants to come to hisec unless they absolutely need something from the markets, and don't use alts or alliance services for logistics.

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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#17 - 2012-05-21 11:50:07 UTC
Roime wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:

Actually I believe it is just the opposite. I believe only the best pilots would attempt to be the top pilot.


Why would the best pilots leave their natural habitats for this artificial, arcade-style arena for fake fame? Nobody wants to come to hisec unless they absolutely need something from the markets, and don't use alts or alliance services for logistics.


There could be more than one arena. Not just in high sec. Plus, as I said, this doesn't sound like your type of game play. It would be aimed at others that would like it. Not everyone likes mining. I suspect not everyone would participate in the tournaments either.
Whadafool
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-05-21 11:50:08 UTC
This suggestion pops up every now and again. I dont see why people are so opposed to the idea. I think it would be good if you could watch the fights, say in your captain quarters. And place bets etc....turn it into an ingame e-sport- maybe thats just me

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Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Blackwater International
#19 - 2012-05-21 12:24:41 UTC
This would take out some of the sandbox nature of EVE if CCP implemented it. It makes the game put limits on what players can do, which goes against everything EVE stands for.

On the other hand, if a player organized this, that would be frickin' awesome. Player driven events are wonderful.

http://eve-sojourn.blogspot.com/

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#20 - 2012-05-21 12:30:34 UTC  |  Edited by: xxxTRUSTxxx
Ginseng Jita wrote:
This is for pilots that have cajones. Not some pimple faced wannabe baddass.


This is for pilots that have cajones. Not some pimple faced wannabe baddass ALT.


there ya go,, fixed it for you Roll
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