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AFK Cloaking in System is a Terrible Mechanic
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Eso Es
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-05-20 06:13:43 UTC
Don't get me wrong, I like cloaking, I like ganking in WHs, I like breaking gate camps, but to be able to sit afk in someones system cloaked FOR DAYS with no repercussions is just unacceptable. Make cloakers susceptible to combat probes, or really, just do SOMETHING to limit the un-interactiveness of cloak, its a fail mechanic as is. Let the flames begin ^^
Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
#2 - 2012-05-20 06:17:10 UTC
Obligatory "Zero people have ever died to an AFK player."
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-05-20 06:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentinel Smith
For all the complaints about Highsec and people can't deal with anything.. the amount of tears over having a single Red on local that you can't find makes me lol.

If you and your corp/alliance can't respond to a single ship when it decloaks, or protect you from a single cloaked ship, then you are doing it wrong, and should head back to highsec.

That or as was said on the CSM Townhall, remove local from Null, or make it work different.. aka now you won't even know if someone is cloaked and waiting for you.. that'll make everyone in Null happy right :)


Oh and I've yet to find a single confirmed kill by a ship that was claoked at the time..
Alara IonStorm
#4 - 2012-05-20 06:29:11 UTC
Say what you will about AFK Cloaking but being 100% Safe in a cloaked ship is a boring mechanic.

Sub Warfare is 100 times more fun. ! mean the cloaking mechanic is so boring that people are literally leaving their computer screens rather playing which right their says it all.
Beledia Ilphukiir
Proffessional Experts Group
#5 - 2012-05-20 06:32:59 UTC
Just make it so, that cloaked people don't show up in local. Problem solved.
Alara IonStorm
#6 - 2012-05-20 06:36:39 UTC
Beledia Ilphukiir wrote:
Just make it so, that cloaked people don't show up in local. Problem solved.

Bombing runs make this impractical. You can camp a system with a fleet and no one knows you are there.

Then make a per-aligned bombing run that takes 3 seconds to execute and warp off to freedom with a completely accurate assessment of the enemy force.

Makes Stealth Bomber Ganking 99% Risk Free.
Beledia Ilphukiir
Proffessional Experts Group
#7 - 2012-05-20 06:38:35 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Beledia Ilphukiir wrote:
Just make it so, that cloaked people don't show up in local. Problem solved.

Bombing runs make this impractical. You can camp a system with a fleet and no one knows you are there.

Then make a per-aligned bombing run that takes 3 seconds to execute and warp off to freedom with a completely accurate assessment of the enemy force.

Makes Stealth Bomber Ganking 99% Risk Free.


I'm cool with that, since there is nothing AFK about it.
Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-20 06:57:51 UTC
AFK cloakers schould only be a problem to groups who cannot organize a defensive patrol.

Combat ships shouldn't worry, non combat ships can be escorted or watched over.

Instead of freezing, implement some rules on how to do anything you normally do under stealth contact.
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#9 - 2012-05-20 07:14:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ituhata Saken
There are only 3 things that worry me about a cloaked ship in system. One is the possibility that this person may not always be afk. Two is that this person may have a point fitted. But third, and most importantly, is the fact this person may have a cyno fitted. Although it is very rare I have had the unfortunate circumstance of observing all 3 probabilities to be true.

Edit: Insert obligatory Schrodinger's Cat joke here.

So close...
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-05-20 07:37:35 UTC
What about AFK mining? Or AFK station trading?
Alara IonStorm
#11 - 2012-05-20 07:40:27 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
What about AFK mining? Or AFK station trading?

You can Gank Miners and undercut traders.
Nebula Terron
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
#12 - 2012-05-20 07:41:41 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Say what you will about AFK Cloaking but being 100% Safe in a cloaked ship is a boring mechanic.

Sub Warfare is 100 times more fun. ! mean the cloaking mechanic is so boring that people are literally leaving their computer screens rather playing which right their says it all.



You talking about mining ?

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Alara IonStorm
#13 - 2012-05-20 07:51:50 UTC
Nebula Terron wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Say what you will about AFK Cloaking but being 100% Safe in a cloaked ship is a boring mechanic.

Sub Warfare is 100 times more fun. ! mean the cloaking mechanic is so boring that people are literally leaving their computer screens rather playing which right their says it all.

You talking about mining ?

No AFK Cloaking... I said so in the post and the thread title is also a helpful hint.

Their are however lots of other threads about how boring Mining is.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-05-20 07:57:20 UTC
AFK Cloaking isn't a mechanic.

The mechanic that is causing your problems is local. That's what needs to be fixed.
Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-05-20 08:10:23 UTC
Beledia Ilphukiir wrote:
Just make it so, that cloaked people don't show up in local. Problem solved.


Oh you!
  • CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-05-20 08:11:22 UTC
afk cloaking is not a problem, deal with it

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#17 - 2012-05-20 08:11:31 UTC
AFK-Cloaking is done because when you enter a a system, you instantly show up on local... which causes everyone in system to dock/POS up because you are a non-blue... and they will continue to stay docked/POSed up until you leave and/or are destroyed.
The only way around this is to "devalue" local as an intel tool by sitting around in a system... often for days.


Now... if you give me a way to get some kills while casually roaming around 0.0 I will agree that AFK-cloaking should be done away with.

How did you Veterans start?
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-05-20 08:17:33 UTC
Tippia wrote:
The mechanic that is causing your problems is local. That's what needs to be fixed.


ahahahahahahaha

no

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-05-20 08:19:40 UTC
Reset SpaceMonkey's Alliance. I need to go AFK cloak in this guys system.

Heh.
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#20 - 2012-05-20 08:20:46 UTC
0/10

No.


Also...no.

But getting rid of local can be nice too.
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