EVE New Citizens Q&A

Some sage advice here.
Personally I do not like the NPC corps, not sure why maybe its because my racial one is just a miss-match of people who have no real direction.

I stopped playing Eve for a while and came back when wormholes were being released, so I spent a month or so trawling forums looking for a corp that was going to be doing wormhole explorations. Luckily I found one who was part of a larger group of a online gaming clan who also played Eve as well as other multiplayer games.

As time has moved on some of us have broken away and made our own corp based on what we wish to do in New Eden, its been a long hard road but I wouldn't change anything one bit.
During my time in 0.0 I have learnt how to fly roaming fleets, pvp and how POS's are run. In wormholes I can map them within in a few minuets. For missions I have learnt the balance of DPS and tanking, none of which would of been possible if I had stayed in a NPC corp.

My big bit of advice to new players.
Do not trust anyone in New Eden, unless you have flown together and shared blood in pvp. Then you will know who you can depend on.

Fly with agression the moment you stop doing this you will loose your ship or die. Even in High Sec those sat at the gate are looking for easy prey, not just a couple but all of them. Or maybe I am just paranoid, but its served me well.

When looking to join a player corp, interview the leadership. Contact them with a private convo go with your gut feelings if something feels wrong it often is.

Look for a corp with an active forum. With a forum, the corp will have a history, a place to make plans, and a place to adapt and improve those plans. Many of the other things discussed in this thread - establishing short and long term goals, giving guidance and advice to new members, and developing a sense of community are all either made possible or enhanced by using a corp forum, not just by those members that are part of the discussion, the justification, and showing-of-the-math that eventually turn a discussion into plan, but by new members that can quickly come up to speed by reading previous posts. On top of this, forums work across timezones, and allow participation in discussions not just when your in-game, but whenever you have internet access. It is the beginning of metagaming, and the hallmark of a corp that means business.

The realtively split nature of the posts thus far in this thread speak fairly well to the problematic and flat misleading nature of the OP, the newsitem, and this mode of thinking in general.



Fixed that for you.

The simple fact of the matter is that, for a new player freshly indoctrinated into the wide world of EVE, with all its unintuitive UI, numerical complexity, vast possibilities, and spiteful, scammy, griefing players, the best option is to stay somewhere reasonably safe and learn the game. For someone brand new and heartily confused, it's just not possible to fully absorb the education through repeated applications of failure that most of the bitter vet community seems to think brings the most benefits.

Yes, a player corp will in theory have a group of older players who have some experience with the game and can give a good answer to most questions, but that's not always the case. There's plenty of corps run by and for idiots who still somehow lack a basic understanding of the game, whereas I know for a fact that CAS, at least, has active characters who have been playing for eight years at this point, never having left, who can be as helpful if not moreso than anything you're liable to find in any other group.

The approach that bears the most merit isn't to seek out a real player corporation immediately or even soon. Rather, new players should take a bit of time and enjoy the relative safety and anonymity of an NPC corporation. Once they find themselves ready to expand, join one of the many stepping-stone training organizations out there -- E-Uni, Agony, etc. -- and use that as a platform to both expand your horizons and meet up with the sort of solid people who will become your undying core of EVE friends. Then, and only then, are you truly ready to consider moving out into a player corp. Before that, you simply won't have the experience necessary to know what to look out for and what kind of corp you're looking for. The "shop around" method may work, but it's just as liable to end up with a new player having a patchwork corp history and being unrecruitable for that fact alone.

Ultimately, this is one of those cases where anyone asking the question of whether they're ready for a player corp or what to look for in a player corp simply isn't ready and shouldn't be looking.

Many important gameplay features in EvE are only available to players in player corporations. These include vanity titles and corp medals.

Ive read nothing here that makes me even consider leaving CAS.

Friends? Ive got plenty of both real life friends and people ive met in CAS.

Help and advice? I receive as much as I ask for and plenty more offered, and make sure i give back as much as I get.

Fleet ops? not so much for me but thats personal choice, there are always fleets for everything from mining ops through to low/null sec pvp. Its there if I want it, including free ships if I need them.

Theres always loads of people online, at any time of day.

My main reason for not leaving?.

Ive been playing online multiplayer games for more years that id like to admit, long before they became MMO's, and have given huge amounts of time and effort to player corps (or whatever they are called in that particular game) and all to often it ends in failure, people lose interest and leave or arguments erupt causing breakups. In EVE there are many palyers that refer to it as Meta Gaming and believe its all part of the experience. its not part of any experience I need to be part of again.

Im noones *****, CAS allows me to do what I want on my own time schedule, and almost everything in the game is available to me if I want it. I dont need to be babied and nursed through anything, im capable of making my own decisions and mistakes and make my own way in the world, and I can cover my own loses. I may not be as rich or fly the biggest ship, but I dont have deal with any politics, or spends hours trying to sort out arguments between corp members, or grief because player X taking something that they shouldnt have.


CAS rules, and you cant take it away from us.

If anything id like CCP to be more cognisant of non player corps and integrate us more into the rest of the game , but I know thats not going to happen.

I can live with it.

The most important piece of advice I could give about joining a player corp is that you shouldn't be afraid to leave a corp if you're unhappy. Don't worry about people's feelings. If you find yourself dreading logging in because of even one bad apple in the corp, look elsewhere. That being said, you should bring the matter to the attention of the leadership of the corp and let them try to resolve it, but if the matter isn't resolved to your satisfaction, or maybe the leadership IS the problem, then move on. There are lots of experienced corps out there willing to help out new players that have various codes of conduct. There's one out there that will fit. Just be patient and have a clear idea what you're looking for.

you had a giant post and all, and you offered perhaps to opinoins in less than 10 words, and the rest was a recruitment drive, take your recruitment and advertising too the appropiate thread, and quit spamming legitamte ones.

A player run corporation is a place where you learn how to truly enjoy eve online.

If you never join one you end up with a substandard version of a single player 'generic space game'.

Watching some poor new guy try to grind his way up to a larger ship on his own with limited knowledge of the game is not a fun activity and yet many people play eve like this and never join a real corporation. They often quit saying Eve is too hard or isn't fun, and this isn't a bad thing because they never 'got it' and never will.

If you join a corporation that is active and fun organising ops and making sure you get paid for your effort and time it makes all the difference a corp run for its members profit and for enjoyment. I have made friends in eve that I would fully trust who I have lived won died and lost with, the harshness of the universe and some of the truly brilliant people who play eve is what makes this game real.

However as there are in life there are corporation and indeed alliances lead by teams of Egomaniacs, crazies, tyrants, slave drivers and swindlers and more then the average number of borderline psychos. They are not always a fun place to be but they certainly have content. in fact for the larger corporations psychosis is a large advantage (much as it is in life), truly what normal person would spend their entire waking life playing EVE, running a mega alliance, the mad thing is we love them for it as they take our time and any resources they can squander.

At least it keeps them off the streets at night..

This is the content that drives EVE, new players and their ideas and at the moment this is stalled due to lack of true new content to draw new people (and crazies) into the game.

Zen Sarum

CEO of an active fun corp

CAS stands for Center of Advanced Studies, the NPC Gallente Starting corp for industrials way back. You cannot be recruited into an NPC corp and cannot go back. What you glossed over while speed reading and trying to find hidden meaning in his words (or looking for the names of childish cartoon characters if your that mentally incabable), you missed out on the actual meaning. Those other areas of CAS are actually chat channels you can join that contain groups of like minded individuals, its our form of unaligned social groups where its not manditory and required for you to be present on a schedule dictated by someone else. We got an underground fight club in null, a landscaping mining team, and a group of individuals to answer any of your stupid newb questions from how to not dual tank, fit 3 different weapon systems on the wrong ship bonus, and how to undock, save a guy 30 days of not having to train Advanced Navigation skills he didn't need. No obligation to be somewhere and no requirement to set the alarm clock, but you can expect your questions to be answered and sometimes a CAS member to help out (such as killing Dagan) if they are nearby. CAS is a great NPC corp to get to meet people, some leave off for their own adventures but they almost always roll up an alt to keep in CAS just to talk sometimes. We are just like Eve-UNI, without the wardec ability.

There has been to much chat about CAS in this thread *squints eyes in a "I see what you did there" manner* and I think we might have a security risk. All prior CAS members in this thread *points at both eyes and back at them like Robert Dinero*...I am watching you.

Any new player that wants to learn how to play the game and what to look out for in the "sandbox" universe of Eve, then there
is only one place to go.....

EVE University