Warfare & Tactics

No, to my knowledge you cannot "active tank" a system, as the dev's have already pointed out that the system flip is determined by victory points, which have been reduced for each plex.

The rest of your questions will have to wait for the dev blog that should be out any day now. Thanks for your patience!

As CCP Rubberband stated, the LP bonus is for all activities that pay out LP. Thus, missions, plexes, and player kills.

Warzone controls are not the same as the system upgrades, Warzone controls are affected by how well your faction is doing. The more you win systems and the more you upgrade them, the better warzone control you have. System upgrades are only dependent on the LP invested into the IHUB. You can see an explanation of all these concepts at the Fan Fest presentation.

We started doing that months ago :)



But yeah if LP rewards for plexing only come in an upgraded system (takes from the hub), that's kind of lame and probably will lead to a lot of people leaving. LP from plexing is what got lots of folks excited in the first place.

However, if you give us the ability to cyno jam an upgraded system...all will be forgiven CCP

Because these aren't design decisions made from a role play or "just makes sense" standpoint. They are there to directly encourage consequence and add meaning to victory conditions, as well as to encourage more FW pilots to spend time in space fighting and less time sitting in stations spinning ships and asking where the fleet is.

Thank you though, for keeping a positive attitude and for being willing to try something before judging it. Players like you should have a lot of fun in the days ahead, I wish everyone else felt the same.

And what if they push ahead with their null-styled consequences/incentives while postponing the infinitely more important mechanics changes (NPCs primarily)?

And what exactly do they expect that will work against the inevitable snowball effect, winning sides will have LP coming out of their arses .. invest in systems (invulnerable due to blobbage) .. get even more LP etc. (and no, datacores mean squat)?

And how do they plan on getting around the 30-40% difference in starting systems between Amarr/Shakorite?
Do they plan on remapping part of the area to make it more of a contest?

My fear is that the blog will just be transcripts of that presentation with notification that they are scheduling all the balance work for Soon™. If that happens, then even the abbadonification of the Punisher won't make up for the sheer hell of trying to outrun people who have been issued motorcycles after having ones own legs broken (difference in ease-of-plexing).

PS: Reason why many of us (or me at least) are so negative is because it smells a lot like the bits of null some of us joined FW to get away from. Lockouts, lol-cynojammers, increase in blobbage, EHP grinds and ISK for everything from eating to shitting (OK, that is not something I wanted to get away from ) and so forth.


And who said RP was boring! .. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hans clearly and repeatedly said he is against the no docking rule. He has represented that he clearly communicated this to ccp.

Now we will just see if ccp will ignore the players posting feedback, and the csm delegate they elected.

@hans

@ccp FW dev dude


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From a pure gameplay perspective, I think it's suboptimal that neutrals (e.g. pirates) can roam the fw warspace completely without hindrance, but fw gangs are hindered in fw space.

I would go so far as to say if the station lockout thing must happen (and I don't think it should), it should lock out everyone but the faction that owns the system.

That's what's so damn frustrating about this.

CCP is giving us the disadvantages of nullsec (station lockouts) without any of the advantages: no denying safe harbour to our threats (the biggest threat to the gallente militia are neutrals/pirates who can still dock everywhere with ease, NOT the caldari miltiia), and no defence against random supercap blobs (cynojammers).

Not to mention plexing mechanics that, apart from defending a few key agent systems, has NO reward for defending a plex. We're back at "if I chase an opponent out of a plex my reward is to sit there bored for up to double the normal timer length with no reward".

I am waiting eagerly for that dev blog for some more concrete details but damn things are looking bleak right now.

Of course, nothing requires the lock out to happen. Well unless you want faction war to be a stepping stone to null sec. Then I guess it "must" happen.