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CCP employees must be removed from the game.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#121 - 2012-05-08 01:18:13 UTC
Minabunny wrote:
That will never happen. So wait for Gw2 to be released and quit eve and never look back.


I advocate this actually. Voet with your wallet. We saw it this summer. THATS what CCP watches

What we do not what we say

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-05-08 01:24:53 UTC
Goons have cooties. Your friend deserves his spaceherpies for not using protection when touching anything that comes out of a goons mouth. Or from goon fingers.

Shocked
"If."
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#123 - 2012-05-08 01:26:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Brock Khan wrote:




I have been saying for years now on various chars. that ccp bieng involved in player corps is insider trading and should be stopped. As well as the CSM members should not be allowed to have back to back terms, and should not be allowed to have more then 2 terms in 5 years. this goes for known and unknown alts. In turn the alliance as a whole should not be allowed to keep "electing" members to the board. This would create a beeter chance for a "CSM OF YOUR PEERS". Long story short CCP as a Corp the Corp that makes the game Should not allow "Employees" to play or communicate any changes or suggested changes to the game ahead of the offical devnotes. With programs like TS3 Vent.. etc Email blah blah alliances like goons spreading the "info they get from things like the CSM are easy to spread. Since these guys have 6 months or so to prepare, its no wonder they are always ahead of the curve.


You will bow to your new Goon overlords cause next CSM theyll vote one Goon for each seat. BOHICA

Patrick Estemaire wrote:
The OP and many others are suffering from a very common gaming phenomenon where their paranoia that the developers are 'cheating' combines with disdain of those that seem to be 'winning' to create the delusion that the 'winners' and developers must be working together to keep everyone else down.

This is not healthy. You're taking things too seriously. There is no conspiracy. Remember to have fun.





And T20 never happened. Move along, nothing to see here

Goons and BFFs keep posting, I must fill up my red bars

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#124 - 2012-05-08 01:32:17 UTC
Styx Cyc wrote:
4chanSwarm

Oh now've you've gone and done it.

Aren't they XxPizzaxX or something?

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#125 - 2012-05-08 01:38:20 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week.


Only if they play as a NORMAL PLAYER not as a "I'M CCP SO SUCK UP TO ME" special favored little princess.


Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.


Oh you mean other than the fact that the guy overseeing them is a Goon. Yeah I trust that


I guess you can never, ever trust a Goon, even if that individual has given you no reason to not trust them, even if their job security rests on them being trustworthy, huh?

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Polly Oxford
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#126 - 2012-05-08 02:07:26 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.


It's not so much about them holding positions of power in 0.0 alliances, at least for me. The problem is, if they're only in 0.0 alliances, and hearing the opinions of 0.0 players, they end up being skewed in favor of them.

Time and time again we hear about dramatic changes coming to 0.0, which are backed out of, but dramatic changes are fairly common for hisec and lowsec. It certainly seems they're much more sensitive to the whines of 0.0 players than anyone else, and them being surrounded by 0.0 players would explain that.

What they should be doing is looking at the big picture, and doing what's best for the game in general. Not just trying to please their friends in 0.0.


Part of the strict monitoring by IA also means that they aren't allowed under any circumstances to reveal that they are CCP employees.

So what is really wrong with a developer being a part of a 0.0 alliance? There are devs that are also in NPC corps. There are devs that pirate in lowsec. I'd imagine that there is a dev for just about any playstyle in eve, apart from scamming. I don't think they are allowed to do that.


When you get to a certain age, you have heard enough people say bald-faced stupid lies to your face, that it really loses it's ability to shock.

Though the above one still is a whopper.


whatexactly is the lie? There is a million spies in gsf, you really think if there we're known devs in our alliance it wouldn't be announced everywhere?
You people really love making stuff up without any proof whatsoever.
Pres Crendraven
#127 - 2012-05-08 02:22:43 UTC
This thread is not goon friendly, it should be locked

Meta34me

Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#128 - 2012-05-08 02:30:42 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week.


Only if they play as a NORMAL PLAYER not as a "I'M CCP SO SUCK UP TO ME" special favored little princess.


Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.


Oh you mean other than the fact that the guy overseeing them is a Goon. Yeah I trust that


I guess you can never, ever trust a Goon, even if that individual has given you no reason to not trust them, even if their job security rests on them being trustworthy, huh?

You have failed the Emperor! (of space)

:commissar:

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Hroya
#129 - 2012-05-08 02:57:02 UTC
Devs not playing their own game would be the death of the game for sure.

As for Soundwave, he was/is a Goon. So ?
Goons have shown through knowledge and organisation that those are good ingredients to be successfull in (any) this game.
A CCP employee being derived from their ranks should be no suprise as CCP has done so from various entities throughout it's lifespan. CCP has shown that it appreciates knowledgeable players with best intentions for the game in order to preserve continuation.

The tricky part for such an employee however is that any and all changes he/she would support that would benefit his/her previous affiliation can and will be seen as favoritism. It doesnt matter if the employee was a Goon or PL or BoB etc member. There will allways be people grabbing torches and pitchforks.

Sadly a fundemental flaw in eve is the accessabillity and easy mode of Empire space combined with alt play.
Recent proposed changes are miles away from solving anything substantial as they only move in one direction.

There are numerous things that should be adressed to really get the game going, alas most of the idea's put into play only provided boomstick propaganda and a short burst of "Hell yeah!". Those tend to lose it's appeal quite fast and offer no long term benefit.

It's add hoc patch and fix, no matter how shiny you wrap the ingredients.

But without devs playing their game, there wouldnt be any at all and eve would have died years ago.

You go your corridor but.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#130 - 2012-05-08 03:01:11 UTC
Oh hey look, it's that time of the month for this thread again!

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#131 - 2012-05-08 03:08:54 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
Oh hey look, it's that time of the month day hour for this thread again!
There you go.
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#132 - 2012-05-08 03:20:59 UTC
This is wonderful. Without GS there would be no activity in EVE.

Ferox #1
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#133 - 2012-05-08 03:28:38 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
This is wonderful. Without GS there would be no activity in EVE.


Oh look, right out of 1984.

Boring. But annoying to.
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#134 - 2012-05-08 03:42:46 UTC
I do not catch the 1984 reference :[

Ferox #1
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#135 - 2012-05-08 03:49:40 UTC
Hroya wrote:
The tricky part for such an employee however is that any and all changes he/she would support that would benefit his/her previous affiliation can and will be seen as favoritism. It doesnt matter if the employee was a Goon or PL or BoB etc member. There will allways be people grabbing torches and pitchforks.

Honestly, given the way people perceive things (based on a sampling of EVE-O forums) I don't think they would mind if if an IT alliance or NC. group was getting, uh "help".

But clearly just buffing their titans wouldn't help, since the CFC is starting to wave titans about too...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#136 - 2012-05-08 04:44:00 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Nerf drone regions. Leave tech moons alone.

Are you high?


Why would you think that we are against a tech nerf? We're all for it, as long as it is done properly and not some half-baked solution like making Neodymium the new bottleneck or the dumb pubbie nonsense that has been suggested like adding tech moons to hisec

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#137 - 2012-05-08 04:44:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
also if you want the recruitment channel policy changed back you only have to present a well-constructed argument like I did here: http://eve-search.com/thread/73482-1

this may be a bit of a stretch for somebody who lacks the ability to do so, however

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Strelsky
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#138 - 2012-05-08 04:49:48 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
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Just file a petition, rant about it on forum, but for the love of god do not suggest CCP employees stop playing their own game.
That couldn't end well.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#139 - 2012-05-08 05:39:51 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Kietay Ayari wrote:
This is wonderful. Without GS there would be no activity in EVE.


Oh look, right out of 1984.

Boring. But annoying to.


lol 13 red bars around your post... the GS propaganda machine is warming up I see

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#140 - 2012-05-08 05:51:36 UTC
What was the main complaint in this thread? I think everyone has forgotten.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]