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CCP employees must be removed from the game.

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Shaampoo
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2012-05-07 23:42:07 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL
My god the Circle jerk has come full cycle I think this is so fuuny.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#102 - 2012-05-07 23:49:01 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:

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I'd throw you in to a pond of hungry moray eels, like the ancient romans punished insolent slaves.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

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Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#103 - 2012-05-08 00:14:54 UTC
How much are the goonies paying you for this publicity?

I really hope you're not giving them exactly what they want for free ... are you?

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."

Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2012-05-08 00:31:21 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.


It's not so much about them holding positions of power in 0.0 alliances, at least for me. The problem is, if they're only in 0.0 alliances, and hearing the opinions of 0.0 players, they end up being skewed in favor of them.

Time and time again we hear about dramatic changes coming to 0.0, which are backed out of, but dramatic changes are fairly common for hisec and lowsec. It certainly seems they're much more sensitive to the whines of 0.0 players than anyone else, and them being surrounded by 0.0 players would explain that.

What they should be doing is looking at the big picture, and doing what's best for the game in general. Not just trying to please their friends in 0.0.


Part of the strict monitoring by IA also means that they aren't allowed under any circumstances to reveal that they are CCP employees.

So what is really wrong with a developer being a part of a 0.0 alliance? There are devs that are also in NPC corps. There are devs that pirate in lowsec. I'd imagine that there is a dev for just about any playstyle in eve, apart from scamming. I don't think they are allowed to do that.


When you get to a certain age, you have heard enough people say bald-faced stupid lies to your face, that it really loses it's ability to shock.

Though the above one still is a whopper.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2012-05-08 00:32:35 UTC
Sid Hudgens wrote:
How much are the goonies paying you for this publicity?

I really hope you're not giving them exactly what they want for free ... are you?


Lookie lookie, it's the Goon explaining how they actually want people to know how they and CCP are BFF.

So we should really stop saying they are BFF.

Ah, no.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2012-05-08 00:34:23 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:

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I'd throw you in to a pond of hungry moray eels, like the ancient romans punished insolent slaves.


Ah, the Roman Republic had a "kill you" policy for corruption.

You were referring to the decadent Roman Empire though?

Yes, I imagine the Goons would fit in well in the Roman Empire. As slaves and hirelings.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#107 - 2012-05-08 00:41:54 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:

bla..
bla..
bla..


I'd throw you in to a pond of hungry moray eels, like the ancient romans punished insolent slaves.


Ah, the Roman Republic had a "kill you" policy for corruption.

You were referring to the decadent Roman Empire though?

Yes, I imagine the Goons would fit in well in the Roman Empire. As slaves and hirelings.


Considering the history and reputation of the Roman Empire, if Eve was the Roman empire, GSF would be at the top of the food chain and feeding the rest of us to the lions.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#108 - 2012-05-08 00:46:52 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL


The more shiptoasting I see from morons like this about how much they hate Goons, the more I appreciate them What?
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2012-05-08 00:49:05 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:

bla..
bla..
bla..


I'd throw you in to a pond of hungry moray eels, like the ancient romans punished insolent slaves.


Ah, the Roman Republic had a "kill you" policy for corruption.

You were referring to the decadent Roman Empire though?

Yes, I imagine the Goons would fit in well in the Roman Empire. As slaves and hirelings.


Considering the history and reputation of the Roman Empire, if Eve was the Roman empire, GSF would be at the top of the food chain and feeding the rest of us to the lions.


Sucking up, willingness to say anything, and extreme cowardice are useful for surviving as a slave and cheering wildly when their owners kill some Christians.

Not so good at being in charge. Especially back then.
Patrick Estemaire
Cosmic Puppet Theatre
#110 - 2012-05-08 00:49:10 UTC
The OP and many others are suffering from a very common gaming phenomenon where their paranoia that the developers are 'cheating' combines with disdain of those that seem to be 'winning' to create the delusion that the 'winners' and developers must be working together to keep everyone else down.

This is not healthy. You're taking things too seriously. There is no conspiracy. Remember to have fun.



Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2012-05-08 00:50:08 UTC
Patrick Estemaire wrote:
The OP and many others are suffering from a very common gaming phenomenon where their paranoia that the developers are 'cheating' combines with disdain of those that seem to be 'winning' to create the delusion that the 'winners' and developers must be working together to keep everyone else down.

This is not healthy. You're taking things too seriously. There is no conspiracy. Remember to have fun.





Nerf drone regions. Leave tech moons alone.

Are you high?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#112 - 2012-05-08 00:50:47 UTC
Patrick Estemaire wrote:
The OP and many others are suffering from a very common gaming phenomenon where their paranoia that the developers are 'cheating' combines with disdain of those that seem to be 'winning' to create the delusion that the 'winners' and developers must be working together to keep everyone else down.

This is not healthy. You're taking things too seriously. There is no conspiracy. Remember to have fun.

No.

Being a dev will apparently now a bannable exploit Shocked if they have their way.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#113 - 2012-05-08 00:51:37 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
UNETHICAL

You wouldn't know unethical if it came up and bit you on the arse...

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2012-05-08 00:56:10 UTC

This thread is full of words, but alas, no content.


The game is full of rules, play the game, do something about it in game.

"Save Jita", as others did. Learn to make the best of things instead of whinning and moaning.

If we have anything at all in game its because we are playing the game the way its ment to be played, within the rules set.

HTFU ;)

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#115 - 2012-05-08 01:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:


Sucking up, willingness to say anything, and extreme cowardice are useful for surviving as a slave and cheering wildly when their owners kill some Christians.

Not so good at being in charge. Especially back then.


Most empires are built on slaves and/or military might, you only have to look at the last 1500 years of history, the other thing they all have in common is that they collapse eventually.

Anyways, CCP Devs should not be removed from the game, if they're unfamiliar with the game we can't rely on them to improve upon it.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#116 - 2012-05-08 01:04:44 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Anyways, CCP Devs should not be removed from the game, if they're unfamiliar with the game we can't rely on them to improve upon it.

Maybe that was the point?

So there are more mistakes to exploit, and so on, hm.. very clever OP. Titans will be rare !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#117 - 2012-05-08 01:07:25 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:


Maybe that was the point?

So there are more mistakes to exploit, and so on, hm.. very clever OP. Titans will be rare !


meh too damn subtle for me, especially at early'o'clock in the morning.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Styx Cyc
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2012-05-08 01:08:19 UTC
At this point you'd think people would have learned that when you talk with someone from 4chanSwarm, you always have to assume they are going to try and scam you. Always.

If you still give them money, its your damn fault.

And it is no secret CCP's love for the largests alliances, you'd think they would have learned from the whole t20 debacle. But hey, if they want to get burned again, let them.
Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#119 - 2012-05-08 01:14:49 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:

... it's the Goon ...



Hey! Just a minute, you! Dem’s fightin’ woids!


I darest ya to step across dis line.


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"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#120 - 2012-05-08 01:16:10 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week.


Only if they play as a NORMAL PLAYER not as a "I'M CCP SO SUCK UP TO ME" special favored little princess.


Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.


Oh you mean other than the fact that the guy overseeing them is a Goon. Yeah I trust that

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