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Pres Crendraven
#61 - 2012-05-07 19:29:04 UTC
Zelda Wei wrote:
We need an internal affairs investigation into Dev Goons, some heads must roll.


yes, Goo must be shed.

La Guillotine, La Guillotine!!

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#62 - 2012-05-07 19:31:04 UTC
Pres Crendraven wrote:
Zelda Wei wrote:
We need an internal affairs investigation into Dev Goons, some heads must roll.


yes, Goo must be shed.

La Guillotine, La Guillotine!!


And after the glorious revolution the goons will have every last CCP employee working for themBig smile

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-05-07 19:33:48 UTC
FeralShadow wrote:
Anybody else find it funny that highsec supposedly has the highest number of people in the game by over 70% and yet they can't scrape enough together to fight goonswarm? I do.



I think the Goonie's would actually have to effect high-sec before they would respond.
As you say 70 %.

So .7 * 300,000 = 210,000 Player in High-sec
And just 10 % of that is 21,000 Players.
Something tells me that a lot of high-sec players don't even know the Goonie's exist except in rumor.


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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#64 - 2012-05-07 19:34:37 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
rantings


Thank God - it's another "I hate Goons" thread. I haven't seen one of these in, oh, 5 minutes at the very least.

tl;dr version of the OP: I'm off my meds, the paranoid schizophrenia is really kicking in, and I have recently come to the conclusion that all the world's ills can be traced back to Goons. They barbecue unicorns and **** on rainbows.

Unicorns? Wow.


Well, Unicorns are attracted to virgins. So if anyone would have the opportunity.... Smile

They BBQ unicorns AND virgins? That would be murder though.

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Elara Zetoya
#65 - 2012-05-07 19:35:12 UTC
FeralShadow wrote:
Anybody else find it funny that highsec supposedly has the highest number of people in the game by over 70% and yet they can't scrape enough together to fight goonswarm? I do.

Fear the mighty PvE Raven, Exhumer and T1 cruiser fleet. With freighters to serve as flying soup kitchens. Or battering rams. Or something.

When I'm good I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm better.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#66 - 2012-05-07 19:41:14 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
rantings


Thank God - it's another "I hate Goons" thread. I haven't seen one of these in, oh, 5 minutes at the very least.

tl;dr version of the OP: I'm off my meds, the paranoid schizophrenia is really kicking in, and I have recently come to the conclusion that all the world's ills can be traced back to Goons. They barbecue unicorns and **** on rainbows.

Unicorns? Wow.


Well, Unicorns are attracted to virgins. So if anyone would have the opportunity.... Smile

They BBQ unicorns AND virgins? That would be murder though.


In that case it would be a mercy killing, though still in very bad taste... I'm assuming that's how barbecue became involved.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#67 - 2012-05-07 19:46:37 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire

It's a sandbox. Learn to understand that some people have a bigger shovel than you.

The Drake is a Lie
Lexmana
#68 - 2012-05-07 19:57:31 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

Wasn't that the whole point with EVE to begin with?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#69 - 2012-05-07 19:58:37 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

Wasn't that the whole point with EVE to begin with?

Not to a carebear.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#70 - 2012-05-07 20:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Wait a minute!

This is all starting to make sense to me.

So what the OP is trying to get at is that the Goons Cult have formed a fake gaming company named Crowd Control Productions for the sole purpose of luring virgins (and possibly Unicorns) to Fanfest for ritual sacrifice to their dark god via barbecue over Icelandic volcano's.

The unrestrained ganks, CCP playing their own game, Iceland, Unicorns, volcano's, Fanfest... it all makes sense now.

Thank you OP, it's like someone turned on the lights.

Mind... Blown...

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-05-07 20:02:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Alavaria Fera wrote:


Not to a carebear.


Where is that thread by the way ?
I am still trying to find the one with all the miner tears we where promised.
I see allot of trolling but no actual tears.

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Lady Zarrina
New Eden Browncoats
#72 - 2012-05-07 20:28:29 UTC
I usually get a laugh out of the goons. But if they are trolling the in game recruitment channel to scam, they are getting truly useless.

And, if at the time, the MOTD stated no scamming, then CCP should take action. Problem is everyone think's that CCP are goon puppets, but truly it is the reverse. But to make their puppets useful, they have to give a few concessions.

Goons, Go make yourself useful, go attack someone who will fight back.

EVE: All about Flying Frisky and Making Iskie
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#73 - 2012-05-07 20:36:04 UTC
As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#74 - 2012-05-07 20:48:50 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week.

Instead of having corporate retreats as other companies do, they could have corporate roaming gangs as a team building excercise.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-05-07 20:50:50 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL



given that theyve dont it before... T20 was in a corp called Band of Brothers and he used his dev powers to spawn them T2 BPOS

Yeah ppl would much rather we forget about that of course

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2012-05-07 20:51:48 UTC
Calfis wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.


Dude, its a sandbox, don't build sandcastles if you can't keep the kid with ass-burgers from tripping and falling on it.


How is it a sandbox?

The Goons are so annoying and thieving with "required PVP" that people are willing to make half or a third as much ISK per hour simply to avoid joining them or some other disgusting null alliance.

The CCP solution to that is to nerf EVERYTHING but PC Alliance Null.

They are even nerfing non-PC Alliance Null... like the Drone Regions... to force people to deal with the disgusting Null Alliances.

The Null Alliances suck so bad making twice as much ISK in their territory while being totally safe is insufficient reason for people to deal with them.

The CCP solution is to make people deal with them.

That is sandbox HOW tard?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#77 - 2012-05-07 20:52:50 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL



given that theyve dont it before... T20 was in a corp called Band of Brothers and he used his dev powers to spawn them T2 BPOS

Yeah ppl would much rather we forget about that of course


No, actually we don't.

From that incident we got the CSM and the Internal Affairs dept. at CCP, both of which we are far better off with than we were before.

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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2012-05-07 20:54:10 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week.


Only if they play as a NORMAL PLAYER not as a "I'M CCP SO SUCK UP TO ME" special favored little princess.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-05-07 20:54:37 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL



given that theyve dont it before... T20 was in a corp called Band of Brothers and he used his dev powers to spawn them T2 BPOS

Yeah ppl would much rather we forget about that of course


No, actually we don't.

From that incident we got the CSM and the Internal Affairs dept. at CCP, both of which we are far better off with than we were before.


Yeah the vaunted CSM whose original charter was to go to Iceland and play watchdog to make sure theyre not still cheating.
Who have become (if we believe what they claim after the fact) the ones that give CCP THEIR marching orders except for the decisions they CUT the CSM out of entirely

silens vesica wrote:
tl;dr
Quote:
CCP employees must be removed from the game.

Why? 'Cause tin foil is starting to get a bit dear?

Or because you fail at EVE?


or because they feel cheating in their own game IS NOT a firable offense

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-05-07 20:56:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Ranger 1 wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week.

Instead of having corporate retreats as other companies do, they could have corporate roaming gangs as a team building excercise.


Now that is my idea of an event.

Rules have to have rules.

NO GM POWERS.
You can give yourselves ANY ship, mod, fitting or implant currently available to the players.
In fact the more expensive the better.
You have have to allow any player to attempt to kill you anywhere without them or you getting concorded.
You can blow up anything in game of course.
That is it I think

So when can we see the first of these incursions ? Big smile

To bad you don't have any Jove ships around that weren't overpowered.
Would make for a very cool roaming attack.

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