Warfare & Tactics

Missed the point did we? My point is that you won't have to go 10 jumps just to find someone else to pew because they'll be close by. People who are bitching about casual pvp don't have a leg to stand on if you only have to go 2-3 jumps to find someone to shoot. Players today fly dozens of jumps just to find someone to pew, so this entire line of argument is complete bullshit.



And what reasons are those? That it'll be hard cause you might actually have to care about where you put your stuff and put a little thought into your play instead of just docking up when **** gets hard? Please. All I see is a lot of whining because people want this to be fight club, ignoring the fact that FW population keeps getting smaller and smaller, and we need to inject some meaning into the system so that people actually care enough to fight.



LP for plexing seems to only be applying to offensive plexing. So if you actually want people to shoot at, you need some reason for people to defensively plex. If you get locked out of station and can't access your stuff, that's a pretty powerful incentive to stop the enemy from running plexes.



First of all, alarm clock ops are a result of RF timers, not anything inherent in territorial controls. I hate RF timers with a passion, I like the way it is now that you actually have to keep up with things yourself and intervene before the **** hits the fan. Second, no one is going to kick you out of FW if you don't want to participate in territorial warfare. You don't have to base in the front line systems, you don't have to be constantly worried about your stuff being locked out. What you all are bitching about is that you can't do that with every single system in the FW area, which was unrealistic in the first place. You want to be able to do whatever you want in game and have no consequences. To that I say, tough ****. Deal with your own choices, if you want to live near the frontline, deal with the consequences. You won't even be penalized that much for living off the beaten track.



I'm well familiar with the Caldari/Gallente area thank you very much, there are plenty of enclave systems or high sec systems that either side can base out of if they actually did lose all their systems. As for Minnie space, I'm sure you all will find a way.

I will say that CCP needs to make it so there are diminishing returns for the winning side and increased incentives for the losing side, so that it isn't completely hopeless if one side really does dominate. But I think the result will not nearly be so one sided. A dedicated gang of a few players managed to hold back entire plexing efforts on both sides, numbers are not the be all and end all of occupancy warfare. If some of you actually participated in it, you'd know that, but instead you just ***** and whine cause you might actually have to learn some new mechanics. I am completely unsympathetic.

Because blob warefare pawns all amirite

I thought you were my friend XG

Also agreeing with X Gallentius here. A reset would invalidate all the work done to flip systems in preparation for this patch that I know all the militias have been doing, as well as force everyone currently living in a system that doesn't originally belong to their faction to move, arbitrarily and artificially, through no fault of their own, no matter how hard they've fought for it. This patch is meant to make FW better, not deliver a soundly demotivating kick in the teeth to the people who've spent the last three years keeping a deeply broken feature alive.

I think this is a terrible idea. Eve is predicated on the sandbox. Arbitrarily nullifying something that players have been working towards for weeks or months compromises the sandbox. Admittedly system distribution can be lopsided, but that means that the side with fewer systems will be concentrated, and the side with more systems will be spread more thinly.

Eve is not a game in which you are guaranteed equal fights all the time. Sometimes you start in a bad position, and that's what makes this game great. You adapt, you fight back, and you survive. Compromising the sandbox to try to put everyone equal footing is a bad idea.

BTW everyone, I'm going to be writing a blog post this weekend to go over all these things and put them into some context. I'll talk a bit more about the Sov reset issue, pros / cons, and talk about issues of fairness and elasticity in the new war. Stay tuned!

Resetting the systems goes against everything that EvE stands for. EvE is about creating a continous history that stands up to scrutinisation regardless of how the various iterations of the rules have effected it. An etch-a-sketch end-of-the-world move for 'fairness' would destroy the history we have worked so hard to forge. As well as this, it would be deeply unfair on the Minmatar Alliances that have worked very hard to base themselves within what was once enemy territory. Our ships, our PI, our POSs, our entire infrastructure is built around our current location. Forcing us to move 2.5weeks before patch day is like punishing us for winning the game.

Resetting the system is a truly awful idea and I would be appaulled if was even considered let alone implemented.

Mom, you left without even saying goodbye? BTW, I'm still there and I'm not dead yet.

Fairness in war? Really?

I agree, whats the reasoning behind giving neutrals access to discounts? They shouldn't be affected by the discounts WE pay for. That and all the pirate FW Corps out there would atleast deter them from even entering FW space.

As long as they can dock, they can still be used as alts for direct opposing faction trade hub runs, which is aboutthe only reason I can think of.