Crime & Punishment

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One of my points was that the average player looking for a cheap kill would leave alone (and still do for the most part) players in corporate mining operations. That is, operations that include a full compliment of miners and haulers and defense ships.

A couple of ships chewing away at some rocks without any fleet protection is what is the target, obviously. That sort of behavior is stupid and used to be called ninja mining for a reason.

The solution is simple - get some guns to protect yourself. And some ECM to nerf that guy's lock. If they only get one volley off before their systems are shut down, the miners survive. A small ship with a fast lock that has the enemy passively targeted is a good solution. Wait for them to attack, and then the same deal. No lock or no cap means no damage. Since they have a 6-7 second volley time, that's plenty of time to mess with their fun.

Lots of things come to mind,some more dangerous than others, of course. But they all require active players playing the game.

Solo in 0.5 in a mining ship. That's the definition of ninja mining, quite literally. Choosing a mining barge or similar ship to do it in is simply poor judgement.

Trying to turn it into forum fodder for more nerfs and penalties is just poor gamesmanship.

The Hulk is an INDUSTRIAL ship. It is not designed to be able to stand up to ships designed for combat operations (such as destroyers) especially if they are working in tandem.

Every time there is some dumb**** that can't fathom that barges and exhumers aren't designed for the capability to ward off multiple attackers, especially if they are fit properly.

Then again, you were probably one of those AFK miners that doesn't pay attention to Local, D-Scan or your Overview.

No I was not, it just takes ages to pick up speed and warp. aligning all the time is quite impossible due to low range of the lasers.

what you said would be true, if one really could field a defense. yet eves mechanics do not allow for something like that. even if you had two friends in rifters backing you up, they could do nothing before the agressors shot first.
and since they come in kamikaze like there is nothing left to for your Escort but to watch you explode.

Really, avoiding the situation you're in is not that hard. You can kick and scream all you want, but CCP isn't gonna change the game just for you, man. I've been mining off and on all through Hulkageddon, but I do it thus:

1. Find a system on the star map that hasn't had any ship deaths in the last hour, and very few in 24hrs
2. Fit my miner with heavy tank, not cargohold cap(You can get away with this in some systems, but NOT a dangerous .5)
3. As soon as I'm in the belt, align to station. This is the big one, and it is NOT "impossible due to the short range of the lasers", as this is how the vast majority of smart miners do it. If you are not aligned while mining, you are mining wrong. ESPECIALLY in Hulkageddon.
4. Monitor every single person who comes into Local, check their sec status, age, and corp
5. Switch belts semi-frequently, just in case

I'm willing to be that you didn't do any of these things. It sucks when you lose an expensive ship, truly. But quitting the game isn't the solution: It is to pick yourself up, rethink things, and take the first step toward earning back your Hulk. You can say that I'm "Telling you how to play the game" or some ridiculous bs, but the more civil folk in this thread are just trying to tell you the safest way to mine in a hulk. It's a specialist ship, and requires special attention to keep it alive.

I speak 3 languages perfectly and I think your usage of English is awful. Ask me anything.

Hulkageddon made me subscribe

Don't forget to mention you quit because of the poor balance between cost of Hulks and cost of ganking ships when CCP inquires when you quit.

If enough ppl do it CCP will rebalance and THEN you'll have some tears on the forums.

And you wonder why we gank you, eh? It's because you cry like little whiny babies to CCP when your precious little ship gets popped. I know people like you are not all too familiar with specialized T2 ships, but did you also know that Black Ops BS's that cost billions have paper thin tanks, too? I mean, really friggen thin. But, they have a very specialized role, just like a Hulk does. You sacrifice something for that specialization.

Mining barges are not built for tanking. They are built for friggen MINING you idiot. That's what they are good at. If you want something that can tank, convert your stupid BS into a mining ship. You'll look like a fool, but you won't be sui-ganked quite as easily.

If you want to protect your Hulk there are some very easy things to do with a little bit of support, half of a brain, and understanding of game mechanics. Perhaps mining is the best thing for you to stick to though, since you barely have enough mental capacity to not drool like a head trauma victim or soil yourself.