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Thank you for the kind words, and yes, I had noticed. Here are some dirty numbers I'd run. I have the skills to fit a Viator with 3 Giant Secure Containers, thats 11,700m3. In that volume I can fit 390 batches of Doom Citadel Torpedoes that have a Tritanium compression ratio of about 12:1. So if I use this blockade runner to ship my excess high ends to empire, then import my Trit in this compressd form, I can recycle these torpedoes and get about 14,000,000 trit.

Assuming a battleship requires about 9,000,000 trit to build; Tier 1's are about 5 mil, Tier 2's about 9 mil, and Tier 3's about 15 mil; with torpedoes I can import about 1-1/2 battleships worth of trit.

Substitute the torpedoes with metal scraps, I can import 1,170,000 metal scraps. At 500:1 compression ratio that recycles to 585,000,000 trit. Enough to build 65 battleships, all without carrier or jump freighter support.

I don't know about you, but I'd be willing to pay a premium to import my trit in this more convenient form. It will be interesting to see if the value of metal scraps increases to the point the mission runners and salvagers begin looting those small and medium cans that often before were left behind.

Kayzum Mother Drone (Rogue Drone Harassment) has no bounty. She (at least I'm guessing it's a She!) still has the Elite Drone AI, which was her entire loot drop prepatch, but no isk value.

Considering other RD's that did and still drop the EDAI have a value, is this intended?




Couple of other things I've noticed, this may/may not be purely me being very very lucky for the past 30 hours. Would like to know if it's just me or these really are actual unlisted changes.

• With the change to Meta 0 drops, I'm not seeing a large increase in Metal Scrap drops but instead Meta 1-4's (Especially Meta 4's.) I've constantly come out of missions with a good 20% of each Meta type as the overall loot in my cargo (the remainder being T1 drones, ammo and odd misc drops)


• Serpentis salvage no longer seems to suck and drops far more Armour Plates than it previously did. Getting 20+ in a single mission now whereas before I'd muster 7-8 from across the battleships and the odd BC.

Will post any other things as I find them, but that's all for now.

Much appreciated, thank you :)


Edit: Just an extra note of feedback. Rogue Drone bounties (at least for those who spawn in L4 missions) seem far smaller than that of Faction specific bounties (As in Cartel/Serps/Blooder/Sansha etc as opposed to mercenary spawns)

Considering they also have terrible salvage and no loot drops outside the traditional Rogue Drone AI's, they're very much devalued compared to other rats (with the lack of loot they're as valuable as mercenary rats) is this intended balance against other Rat types?


Thanks again.

Well, after testing the new Hordes, I must say
1. You need more than 2 accounts to really make any decent isk.
2. It just freakin' feels weird to leave a horde without bringing my Noctis in
3. The Dronelands as CCP gave us, were such a grand gift. Now that gift is a burden. Between Omni damage, the fact that the bounties aren't high enough to make up for the lack of loot, and the salvage is still terrible, I'm not sure if the droneland population will continue to grow.

CCP, we acknowledge that the amount of minerals coming from Droneland 0.0 was too much, however, the changes you have made have rendered my regions worth much less than even the most basic of pirate NPC region.

You strike a good point, I hadn't considered that. I always figured that CCP intended Curse to be lolnullsecnoob area, and now you see what it is :)

A question: why don't you nerf reprocessing of modules? Mineral compression is nice in theory but it removes the need of mining in nullsec. If reprocessing efficiency were nerfed progressively, we could see more people going to mine in 0.0.

Should other Elite Drones which only drop an Elite Drone AI have received bounties as well? The Elite Drone Parasite which spawns at the start of the solar collector-type Drone Patrol also doesn't have a bounty, but I assumed this was intentional since it didn't drop any alloys pre-Escalation, so its value remained unchanged.

lol 4 hours before DT & Gallante space Vanguards are 100% stacked OTA's. No I didn't predict this in the forums in the weeks proir to the patch ater hearing feedback from actual Incursion runners on SiSi... So Vanguards are suposed to be a trainning ground before assaults? OTA is a death trap for any non shiney ship. TBH All the assaults now are easier then the OTAs. May as well rename Vanguard systems Assault systems & vice versa

Awesome, CCP has effectively made another part of the game virtually impossible for newer players to get into. Not only that but the generation of ISK was nerfed so getting into a shiney ship is even harder. Oh and not to mention the ship costs these days. But wait... CCP is going to nerf datacore farming. So all those shiney ships and modules are about to get even more expensive.

Sorry Newbs, your skrewed. Sorry, anyone who's been training for incursions we just changed the name of the game, keep training. Try to make some isk along the way too, so you can afford the shiney fit. Don't try and do it with an alt and semi passive income though. We're nerfing that.

Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass 'GO', do not collect $200.

Sorry, but some of us *do* enjoy just sitting there and blasting rocks, listening to the dull drone of lasers blasting them into little tiny bits, which then fit comfortably in our cargo holds while we socialize in various channels, play EOH, or dream of winning the BIG Lottery. See. there's this thing called "Real Life," and in this "Real Life," some of us have "jobs" which aren't always fun, and can often bring about this thing called "stress." "Stress," you see, makes us irritable and cranky. It also makes us lose hair. What you perceive to be a hopelessly AFK occupation is, for some, a chance to unwind while doing something constructive for ourselves, our corps, and/or our alliance. Sure, maybe it's not your thing. But that doesn't mean it's worthless.