EVE General Discussion

Whilst I agree that the wilfully ignorant are a royal pain in the arse I must ask... What exactly are we on the brink of?
I've only been back a year but at the moment, at least in the UK the only thing i'm on the brink of is having all of my money taxed away by the government. That and this lovely new recession everyone is talking about but we're getting pretty good at those now I think.
I don't know how things are across the pond but things aren't too unstable where i'm standing
Dav

Posting in a "I pay my subscription fee, why should I be forced to think to be successful in this game?" thread.

Errr do you read your own posts?

Ahem... if i may:



I have highlighted the key phrases in bold, just in case you read it too quickly

Correct me if i'm wrong but... that shows that what was as you so aptly describe 'actually typed' was not in fact 'easily brainwashed' it does in fact say 'are brainwashed' ...which to use your own phrasology, implies a current state of affairs.

The goons are not brainwashed, and the west is not easily brainwashed. They just aren't doing what you want, you're angry and you are channelling this anger into a fundamentally flawed argument with no basis of evidence.

Please, next time you challenge a statement, actually check what you wrote beforehand, else you will, once again risk making statements which are inherently false.

Dav

p.s. 'UNTRUE FALSEHOODS' Is a tautologically redundant phrase

p.p.s As to my other post, my question was not directed towards you.
You clearly have very little actual knowledge regarding Western civilisation... or indeed Eastern civilisation. Furthermore your reasoning is so flawed I wouldn't be able to trust any answer you gave.

After some thought, I have concluded that if you tried - really tried, you could probably play EVE as a non-PvP game by only ever doing missions, only using rookie ships and ships you built from minerals you refined from your own mission loot, never buying or selling anything on the market...


...and even then it would only be a non-PvP game if not one single other player was interested in bringing PvP to your game.

Not gonna debate, just go watch idiocracy. Its scary how accurate it is towards trends(at least here in the US)

If its a Sandbox as you claim then the OP should be able to play the game as they want. That is what a Sandbox is.

What we have in EVE is a Sandbox that is controlled by large alliances and corporations. That is not a Sandbox as a few decide how the rest should play but I do not expect idiots like you to understand logic and common sense.

You do know that when you point a finger at someone that 3 fingers point at you, right.

You're right Eve is a sandbox, the joy of a sandbox like Eve is that apart from some quite basic rules and mechanics the only limit is your imagination. It's both PVP & PVE, but mostly PVP, both are those are valid choices that just happen to infringe on each other.

The only thing you can actually call PVE is solo missioning, everything else in the game that is considered PVE is actually PVP, ie: competition between players.

Solo Mining, you're still competing with other players for the 'roids, when you reprocess & sell or use to make stuff & sell you're in competition with other players. PVP

Running incursions, you're trying to outdo the other fleets on the field because only one gets paid. PVP

If you're mining in a fleet you try to outdo each other with bad jokes, bullshit, poor taste in music and erotica. PVP

If you're missioning in a fleet, see mining + blowing up more stuff or earning more bounty than your fleet mates. PVP

If you're waiting for that Cyno to light , see mining in fleets, with good chances of pretty explosions to follow, sometimes your own. PVP

Playing the markets can be absolutely brutal PVP, you can lose billions in seconds without even undocking. PVP

A single player sandbox should of course operate in the way you suggest.
However, eve is a massively multiplayer online sandbox. And the very mechanics which allow the formation of corporations and alliances encourage such behaviour.
The fight for control of resources necessitates the formation of large alliances and corporations as simple escalation. This is a survival tactic. Just because every once in a while a large alliance uses the power they have to mount a campaign such as burn jita is not making the game unfair as such. It is in fact a clever move to raise prices and undoubtedly some people are making vast amounts of isk out of it.

to be successful in eve you cannot play alone. If you'd prefer this, go play X3 or some other single player space sim
Dav

Because I never made 'sweeping references to cultures".

God you trolls are pathetic. get too many spankings as a child ?