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Katja Faith
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-04-26 22:47:14 UTC
tomato1 wrote:
so real simple as far as i hurd people are pissed to point no ones fleeting up and the drastic change to ships needed means people have retrain



Stopped reading here. Wow.

1. Turn off the computer and pay attention in English class.
2. High-sec Incursion runner tears. Lol
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-04-26 22:53:43 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Good, now that noone does them they should be quietly removed. (I live in high sec, have run them and even I think they were meant to be a limited time event that suddenly became so popular they became a feature (which was a mistake)

Then they can get on to putting tech moons in high sec (or thats what youd think they were doing with the volume of QQ comin outta everywhere about lvl 4s now that Incursions arent an issue)


What's this people keep saying about lvl4s? I've seen literally a single thread on it, and it was a troll thread.


Odd as Ive been seeing snipes about them all day across several threads. Along with that tech moons in high sec thing as I stole it from someone else l;ol

Well it could just be that one thread but given the QQ changed the Incursions theyre gonna think they have momentum or some such

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#43 - 2012-04-26 22:57:36 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


Odd as Ive been seeing snipes about them all day across several threads. Along with that tech moons in high sec thing as I stole it from someone else l;ol

Well it could just be that one thread but given the QQ changed the Incursions theyre gonna think they have momentum or some such

Ive seen a few comments on it, sure, but I think you think you may need to train troll detection to level V.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Name Family Name
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-04-26 23:03:48 UTC
Fear not OP - someone smarter than you will figure out an idiot-proof way to run them and write up a guide for dummies like you.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#45 - 2012-04-26 23:11:01 UTC
Name Family Name wrote:
Fear not OP - someone smarter than you will figure out an idiot-proof way to run them and write up a guide for dummies like you.

And then they can boast about their superior isk/hour and isk: risk ratios and then ops~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Chump Clone
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-04-26 23:15:43 UTC
Will my Blaahgron still work? I don't want to be left out of shiny fleets.
Chump Clone
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-04-26 23:20:27 UTC
Really - can anyone try? I heard about people losing they're ships in Incursions now.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#48 - 2012-04-26 23:24:06 UTC
You know, small observation, it's amazing how accurately you can predict the stupidity of a post/threads' content by the number of grammatical and spelling errors made.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#49 - 2012-04-26 23:32:18 UTC
What are Incursions?

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
Ironworks Coalition
#50 - 2012-04-26 23:35:47 UTC
Let's put it in ISK terms. If I was making 150mil an hour in a shiny fleet running VG's, how much of a hit am I taking financially? I haven't run any since the nerf so am a bit out the loop so to speak.

The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong.
Mentorm
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-04-26 23:35:52 UTC
Just wading in here, the first day after the patch I made 100mil in an hour running the vgs with some guys from incursion channel. OTAs however are now really difficult without a hacker alt running 90km to the tower.

I've also been running with the HQ fleet that runs 24hrs making 30 mil every 30 mins or so.

It's not that bad, except maybe the OTAs but a lot of people are whining and quitting since the patch.

So what some say is right but there are a fair few still enjoying Incursions, tho they made need a little tweak.
Trinity Six
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-04-26 23:36:41 UTC
This is a horrible thread and u should all feel horrible.
Chump Clone
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-04-26 23:39:55 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
What are Incursions?



There raids basiclaly. You know? PvE you do in guilds just better - you do it without having to walk back to your tombstone cuz you dont die.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#54 - 2012-04-26 23:52:06 UTC
Chump Clone wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
What are Incursions?

There raids basiclaly. You know? PvE you do in guilds just better - you do it without having to walk back to your tombstone cuz you dont die.

Oh, is this a commentary on the riskiness of doing incursions? I hear some of the people that run them get touchy about such subjects.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Chump Clone
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-04-27 00:01:18 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chump Clone wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
What are Incursions?

There raids basiclaly. You know? PvE you do in guilds just better - you do it without having to walk back to your tombstone cuz you dont die.

Oh, is this a commentary on the riskiness of doing incursions? I hear some of the people that run them get touchy about such subjects.



I dont mind - now could someone please check if its still safe to do them in a blaahgron?

I may be able to fly a Michariel soon (just three days ro gallent BS 1) but need to know quickly because my plex is running out so i may sell the blaahgron, buy a plex and buy one of these insteed.
Trading Unknown
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-04-27 00:07:22 UTC
Quote:
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game


Is Hulkageddon "Shark Week"?
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#57 - 2012-04-27 00:07:26 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


Odd as Ive been seeing snipes about them all day across several threads. Along with that tech moons in high sec thing as I stole it from someone else l;ol

Well it could just be that one thread but given the QQ changed the Incursions theyre gonna think they have momentum or some such

Ive seen a few comments on it, sure, but I think you think you may need to train troll detection to level V.


Yeah well till news of this incursion destructing nerf came up Id have said the same for that

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#58 - 2012-04-27 03:19:09 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Two thirds the assault sites are taking longer. Sorta doubt that will change but in the next 2 weeks a new fleet doctoine may speed things up to close to pre patch speeds but I doubt faster. NCN's spawns are watered down I've been able to do them with a few fleets but I've done 5-7 NCS's & ~4-6 OCF's they taken loger to run then previously


You may find the only ones that care are the ones that have been abusing this ISK faucet into the game ... I hope they wrap up Incursions soon and deal to Sansha Kuvakei so the storyline for EVE can continue.


Nah there are more in the Incursion community then those worried about ISKies. ..
TBH I'd like too to see the Sansha Incursion wrap up with a bang & a new Incursion of Sleepers or Jove pop up.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#59 - 2012-04-27 03:36:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Apolyon I
DarthNefarius wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Two thirds the assault sites are taking longer. Sorta doubt that will change but in the next 2 weeks a new fleet doctoine may speed things up to close to pre patch speeds but I doubt faster. NCN's spawns are watered down I've been able to do them with a few fleets but I've done 5-7 NCS's & ~4-6 OCF's they taken loger to run then previously


You may find the only ones that care are the ones that have been abusing this ISK faucet into the game ... I hope they wrap up Incursions soon and deal to Sansha Kuvakei so the storyline for EVE can continue.


Nah there are more in the Incursion community then those worried about ISKies. ..
TBH I'd like too to see the Sansha Incursion wrap up with a bang & a new Incursion of Sleepers or Jove pop up.


you should start heading into wh if you're so possessed by sleepers. stop sitting here and whining??

and we don't need another broken/ farming/ grinding feature
Korgan Nailo
5ER3NITY INC
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#60 - 2012-04-27 04:36:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Korgan Nailo
Well, to me, there were 2 things to work on, but they changed a 3rd too.

- ISK from VGs was wrong. Period.
- Blitzing was wrong. Period.

Both things were not intended to be done as such.

However,
- making the sites suicidal is simply bad.

We are not talking about people who had never done incursions. First Assault site I go in after the patch and see one guardian, one legion and one Vindicator popping. That was an ASSAULT site. People can say that players just didn't fit properly, and my answer to that was that the FC was one of losses, and he/she knew what he/she was doing.

Then, new site, this time, we lost another logi, another BS AND I got from full shields to 40% hull in a 110k EHP battleship. You may say logis were slow, or that my fit was wrong, say whatever you want, but the overall "feeling" was bad. One FC mentioned they ended up with 8 logis in one fleet before they felt comfortable.

To me, they just made it too risky.

Result now is that either you have a Pirate / Faction / Marauder BS, or you won't be able to fit full turrets because you need at TON of tank.

If Incursions are meant to be run by fleets of 2/3 bil fits, I guess I'll just miss them as they were before this patch, not for the ISK but for the fun that simply isn't there anymore, or at least wasn't in the sites / fleets I did after the patch.


TLDR: closing the ISK faucet and blitzing was ok. Making the sites more dangerous was unnecessary.

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