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ccp romplestomped incursions

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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#21 - 2012-04-26 18:45:08 UTC
I like the overall tone of the message but I got lost around the middle. What is an idot and what does it entail? Was this Steve jobs final breakthrough?

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#22 - 2012-04-26 18:57:20 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
What is an idot and what does it entail?
It's like a widot, but much shorter.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-04-26 18:59:20 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
tomato1 wrote:

point being people are going to do something else



good



Not empty quoting
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#24 - 2012-04-26 19:05:37 UTC
So we will have the obligatory 2 weeks while people figure out the most efficient way to do them, pass the word around, and then it will be back to business as usual... just taking a bit longer with slightly lower payouts.

Isn't it funny how even change manages to, in many ways, stay the same...

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#25 - 2012-04-26 19:07:44 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Isn't it funny how even change manages to, in many ways, stay the same...
Plus ça change…?
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
#26 - 2012-04-26 19:52:20 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Serge Bastana wrote:
Translation: despite the numerous claims that Incursions were all about the social aspect and fleeting up and having fun, nobody wants to run them now that they don't pay as well and people might actually lose ships.

What a shame, my heart pumps purple ****, it really does.



No the social aspect is still there and a few of us are still doing them. but with OTA's taking 3-5x the amount of time to finish your better off doing L4's then those effed up sites. So OTA's have become the NCN's of Vanguards stacking up fix the fix it list in a DEV's cubicle the day after another screwed up patch



Now in the wormhole thread i had the idea you were genuine in your inability to grasp the concept we were spoonfeeding you and as such i was convinced you really had comprehension problems.

It turns out this is a question of the heart: you really loved incursions and were just blind in your jelousy.
Alexa Coates
Coalition Of Misfits
#27 - 2012-04-26 19:54:58 UTC
OP'S AN IDIOT ABANDON THREAD

:siren:

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.

Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-04-26 20:00:43 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Isn't it funny how even change manages to, in many ways, stay the same...
Plus ça change…?



Shocked

"...plus elles restent les mêmes." Lol


Just like good music bands (70's/2012)


Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#29 - 2012-04-26 20:19:37 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
tomato1 wrote:

point being people are going to do something else


good


Not empty quoting

I, too, shall refrain from empty quoting.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-04-26 20:21:46 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
tomato1 wrote:

point being people are going to do something else


good


Not empty quoting

I, too, shall refrain from empty quoting.




You look good when you do it and you get a dislike for free. It's a hidden skill schhhhht !
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#31 - 2012-04-26 21:13:00 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Xercodo wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Serge Bastana wrote:
Translation: despite the numerous claims that Incursions were all about the social aspect and fleeting up and having fun, nobody wants to run them now that they don't pay as well and people might actually lose ships.

What a shame, my heart pumps purple ****, it really does.




No the social aspect is still there and a few of us are still doing them. but with OTA's taking 3-5x the amount of time to finish your better off doing L4's then those effed up sites. So OTA's have become the NCN's of Vanguards stacking up fix the fix it list in a DEV's cubicle the day after another screwed up patch


Isn't making VGs take longer the exact goal that CCP had in mind?


I guess if a bit CCP speak means 3x to 5x longer for Vanguards. Viking Icelanders & their NERF hammers strike harder then' Thor's hammer Mjolnir !!!
If you read the features page they also said they were making assaults shorter too but have done the opposite in OCF's & NCS's:
http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/features/
"Incursion Iteration
The rewards and challenges of Sansha invasion fleets in Incursion content have been revisited
to better balance challenge and reward. Vanguard invasions will now take a bit longer, while the
time to complete an Assault invasions will be reduced some.
In addition, the ISK reward of Vanguard
invasions has been changed to bring the reward in line with the difficulty/risk."

Two thirds the assault sites are taking longer. Sorta doubt that will change but in the next 2 weeks a new fleet doctoine may speed things up to close to pre patch speeds but I doubt faster. NCN's spawns are watered down I've been able to do them with a few fleets but I've done 5-7 NCS's & ~4-6 OCF's they taken loger to run then previously
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#32 - 2012-04-26 21:19:34 UTC
No one cares Darth.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Ai Shun
#33 - 2012-04-26 21:23:22 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Two thirds the assault sites are taking longer. Sorta doubt that will change but in the next 2 weeks a new fleet doctoine may speed things up to close to pre patch speeds but I doubt faster. NCN's spawns are watered down I've been able to do them with a few fleets but I've done 5-7 NCS's & ~4-6 OCF's they taken loger to run then previously


You may find the only ones that care are the ones that have been abusing this ISK faucet into the game ... I hope they wrap up Incursions soon and deal to Sansha Kuvakei so the storyline for EVE can continue.
Rory Pruzis
Knight Odds
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#34 - 2012-04-26 21:28:28 UTC
These nerfs to incursions went way too far. Incursions will be near-completely neglected, as there is far better isk to made elsewhere. CCP promoting player interaction, gj.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#35 - 2012-04-26 21:30:37 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:

You may find the only ones that care are the ones that have been abusing this ISK faucet into the game ... I hope they wrap up Incursions soon and deal to Sansha Kuvakei so the storyline for EVE can continue.

Even most of the incursion runners I know agreed the nerf was warranted, my only quarrel is that CCP should not have taken so long in dealing with it. I understand CCP need to be careful with changes, but I'd have preferred to see them tweaked sooner, in smaller steps, rather than left unchecked for so long and fixed in one fell swoop at the end.

Then again, watching the forums fill up with qq after every minor tweak would have been hell. Maybe it was less disruptive doing it one go purely to minimize prolonged negative feedback, meh.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Ai Shun
#36 - 2012-04-26 21:41:21 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Then again, watching the forums fill up with qq after every minor tweak would have been hell. Maybe it was less disruptive doing it one go purely to minimize prolonged negative feedback, meh.


True. Does this push it closer to the completion of this storyline though? Because how long have we seen these incursions into our space now? It has to end at some stage ...
Alavaria Fera
Imperial Shipment
#37 - 2012-04-26 22:01:44 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Then again, watching the forums fill up with qq after every minor tweak would have been hell. Maybe it was less disruptive doing it one go purely to minimize prolonged negative feedback, meh.


True. Does this push it closer to the completion of this storyline though? Because how long have we seen these incursions into our space now? It has to end at some stage ...

CONCORD, who acts the moment you shoot a bullet at someone, gives no damns and throws isk at people to solve the problem for them.

Do you think they care? No, it's part of their tactics to win at EVE.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-04-26 22:30:18 UTC
Good, now that noone does them they should be quietly removed. (I live in high sec, have run them and even I think they were meant to be a limited time event that suddenly became so popular they became a feature (which was a mistake)

Then they can get on to putting tech moons in high sec (or thats what youd think they were doing with the volume of QQ comin outta everywhere about lvl 4s now that Incursions arent an issue)


Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#39 - 2012-04-26 22:33:15 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Good, now that noone does them they should be quietly removed. (I live in high sec, have run them and even I think they were meant to be a limited time event that suddenly became so popular they became a feature (which was a mistake)

Then they can get on to putting tech moons in high sec (or thats what youd think they were doing with the volume of QQ comin outta everywhere about lvl 4s now that Incursions arent an issue)


What's this people keep saying about lvl4s? I've seen literally a single thread on it, and it was a troll thread.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Snooood
#40 - 2012-04-26 22:44:42 UTC
A boost to the dead mining profession = GOOD
More mining barges for target practice = GOOD

I like mining, it's a boost to industry as a whole the way I see it.