Missions & Complexes

See, it's harder to find people in wormholes to kill... Incursions it's very easy for a griefer to find a target. They just need to join a fleet, get aggro (can flip or something like that)

And their buddies come in and nuke the logi's With the logi's down the NPC's will kill everyone in the pocket... and the griefers have logis to keep them alive.

DO I REALLY NEED TO EXPLAIN GRIEFING TO A SKUNK?

Why do you think so many griefer groups have clung to the incursion community, bleeding fleets for nice loot drops?

Not to mention ninja looters that attempt to steal the faction drops from the mothership kill?

Nullbear detected. Though I am not sure if I have to disagree.

Logi aggro hasn't worked in months. It was patched in November, then we discovered a rather obscure flaw in a crucible update around the end of January that was patched a week later. Anyone who gets aggro from logi after all the patching CCP did to stop us deserves it, because they've ignored very specific warnings.

That is, unless CCP broke it AGAIN, in which case I'll come see in person just how "dead" incursions are.

The only ways I know of to grief incursions today:

- Suicide jamming the logi, which (I think) Lead Farmers executed quite well for a short time before they went on to other things.
- Logi abandonment, where the logi pilots don't rep or don't warp into the site with the rest of the fleet. This one I can claim as my own, I was one of the first to propose it. The problem is it has limited use as once a logi pilot is identified they have an extremely hard time getting fleets.


Sometimes I just like to hear it

Ye... Incursions are dead, back to nullsec actually playing the game.

This attitude is quite frankly why I think public access to the SiSi server is dumb. Its called a TEST server for a reason. It isn't the "IF ITS ON HERE IT IS THE WAY IT WILL BE ON TQ" server.

i think there will be this way:
- less money from Incursion -> less people do it
- less people do Incursion -> less CONCORD LP generated
- less CONCORD LP generated -> more CONCORD LP worth
- more CONCORD LP worth -> more profit for people doing Incursion

process will balance itself at some point

Did you spend all night crying about this in this thread?

hunting or get hunted??

and what did you hunt.??

some drakes runnning C1 site???

only killing that much and you call incursion risk-free, what a shame

in a C5 farming fleet, the only logistics ship is carrier which if he dc, the whole fleet with 2,3 lokis, 5,6 dread all die in seconds.

while your incursion fleet has 3 200m logis. isnt it risk-free

But isn't the reward from your C5 wormhole sites a lot higher than incursion running?

The risk does match the reward. Because in a decent incursion fleet before you could male about 100 mill an hour... any higher and you were in one of those "elite" fleets.

Yes 3 logi's but most spend more on their logi ship so they can get more out of it. To get all 4 reps being T2 my guardian has a Bailey plate on it, which is more than 500 mill on it's own.

And still if those logi's go down you can be losing up to 8 deadspace and faction fit Vindicators, Nightmares, Machariels... And they will all die in seconds if the logi's are down...

How often do your fleets come under attack? I imagine being in your fortress of a WH system that you have scouts every where not to mention Warp disruption bubbles on any holes while your fleets are active.

Because the Incursion fleets are out in the open for anyone to attempt a logi gank. And they do try, with some success.