Missions & Complexes

My thoughts on Incursions in they should be a CONCORD free zone even when theyre in High sec.

The idea CONCORD can keep the peace when theres a pirate incursion going on is stupid



Oh yeah and they made it harder....
Something people have been asking CCP to do with PVE for YEARS

Adapt or die

Well, at least the 0.0 ppl will stop QQing about incursions and go back to QQing about lvl 4s while they quietly count the money made by their tech moons.

OP SUCCESS!

Yes, they made it harder. We all agree that it should have been harder. You are generalizing the situation by making a blanket statement of 'durr dey made it harder. dat's a good ting." The fact that they're harder is great - we all agree with that. But wait - it takes 47 minutes to do a site now. With more people required to do it. Because of this, a social games' primary social PVE experience has been nerfed so much that it is unviable. In return, players are moving to a solo experience (level 4's or GASP! mining). Now do you see the issue here? MINING is now more profitable that a well-built social PVE experience.

*snip* personal attack - ISD LoneLynx

Actually vgs are not really that much harder. They just need more time to get cleared. How is it harder to watch npcs explode longer? If they would have increased npc damage or reduced our tanks, but keep the maximum possible isk the same (minus those 10%), than I could agree that its harder. But that is not what they changed, they just make us now shoot longer on rats.

Still you are right, adapt or die is the call and people already starting to adapt. Assaults are the new vgs. And vanguards are the new scouts.

i love all these people commenting on incursions that have prob never run them before ~~~ xD
I also love how everyone who runs incursions is automatically assumed that their incursion runner is their only character and that's all they do in eve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


i am dissapointed about the lack of tears though, i don't know what these other people are talking about i don't see any GOOD tears in here :/ squiggle squiggle squiggle squiggle squiggle squiggle squiggle squiggle

This is fantastic. CCP do this.

NPC damage was increased in Vanguard sites fairly substantially. I guess you're one of the posters who likes to comment on the Incursions changes without actually having run them.

Personally I think that if the Incursion nerf stands as it currently is on Tranquility this will be the end of High Sec Incursions. The risk-v-reward is no longer in line with other avenues of income generation for players and as such I would expect to see an ongoing erosion of the Incursion Communies that have developed to run this content. I can't say I'd blame players for leaving, after all when you can make similar ISK for far less effort and organization doing something boring like missions with almost no risk (or the need to trust other people), why would you bother with Incursions?

Undoubtedly there are a people out there happy that these changes have taken place, though I've never really understood their logic. The vast majority of the ISK I have made from Incursions has been poured back into the ships I fly (and lose) in PvP whichis exactly what the majority of people I have encountered who didn't like Incursions enjoy shooting at. By cutting off Incursion ISK I guess I'll just go back to flying cheap stuff since solo avenues of ISK generation available to me like missioning/ mining bore me to tears.

Thanks for the run, CCP. It's been great meeting the diverse group of people I've run Incursions with and I've enjoyed running Incursions as a whole. It's a shame that it's come to such an abrupt end, but that's Eve ... things change and players move on.

may i redirect you to this thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=100746&find=unread

The thing I was hoping CCP would do and something that would be supported storyline would be...


Sansha are running low on resources, they realise that they cannot sustain these assaults against Concord and the Capsuleers

So He sells off the tech to the other pirate factions, so that they may be able to Invade Constellations using similar wormhole tech.

This would bring great variety and each Pirate faction would have slightly different problems to overcome.

Angel TP more and be higher DPS than current incursion NPC's

Dark Blood Neut more and have harder tanks

Shadow do high DPS at close range as well as dampen

Gursista use more ECM and have most flexible range for DPS.

The difference in what to expect in each type of incursion would mean needing to plan it differently and would remove the "cookie cutter" fleets. So all machs and all legions. Wouldn't just be the answer. You'd be forced to overcome different obstacles

Were I of an incursion-running mind, I'd invest the time and energy into figuring out the best way to capitalize on this sudden drop in interest in incursions. There's probably a lot of profit to be had for an innovative group.

The reaction seen here is exactly why The Skunkworks took such glee in griefing incursions. When CCP yanked the rug out from under us (over and over and over again) we adapted and made the best of it. We found new ways to commit acts of piracy in high sec. Here we are, barely a day into this, and the entire "community" is throwing its hands up and saying "well, that's that, incursions are dead!" I'm not normally one to look down on others, but frankly this defeatism is appalling.

For those of you who will get out there and figure out ways to restore your income level, I beg of you: don't share it with those who won't put in the effort themselves. Enjoy the contest-free incursions and reap great rewards for your effort and creativity.