Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Remove jump clones entirely.

Also remove the ability to change the medical clone station remotely.

The only way to move somewhere should be to FLY there, not use JC or change station and suicide your pod.

Less than 24 hours should be in-station or intRA-regional only.

Too much room for EXPLOITATION here.

goons (I can't capitalize it any longer) just wanna hop across the galaxy in 15 minutes if they could. RISK FREE of course.

That is ALL this is about anyway.

What are you talking about? You can do that anyway regardless of JC timers via pod express. Provided you have enough ISK to pay for the replacement clone cover else should you be podded there is consequence.

If you don't like JC that’s fair enough and I would probably argue the position is valid. However typing out the garbage you have over the last few posts to justify your position and why you don't like them is contemptible even by your own extremely poor standards.

I disagree. It also takes a lot away from the consequences of your choice of implants. I can already go all slaves, hardwired for energy guns, and easily change to a full crystal set with all missile implants. Like someone mentioned before: you can basically count on most of the richer players always flying around with optimized sets because it (already!) is so easy to swap clones.

If people aren't PvP-ing because they have too expensive implants in their head they can't afford to lose, the game absolutely should not be changed to accommodate their spineless consequence-averse, min-maxing behavior.

Death cloning is another issue, however this thread is about Jump cloning.

No ****, who the **** gave this OP permission to speak for me as well.

Thanks for clarifying the previous posters concerns for me.


Neither activity is risk free. It says so on the tin when you install the JC. The fortress systems seen in 0.0 are an irrelevance after the fact. According to the many Bears here in this forum in numerous threads supporting the posit, anything that incurs a 100% certainty of loss is not a considered a risk (pod express being one example). In addition when installing a clone in a null sec station, the pop up advising of uncertainty, is either a risk or it isn't! We cant just cherry pick when it suits us to call ANY loss or potential loss a risk or not. Yeah thanks your clarity really helped him.

As you brought it upon yourself to automatically include me without my given consent, I must automatically switch my vote to no and add your 12 hours to the current 24 as to request a 36 hour jumpclone just to spite you.

This argument is pointless, since I find death cloning to be a issue as well. I never brought it up because this thread is about JC. Anything that allows you to move large distances of space instantly is a bad design, this goes for cynos, JBs, titan bridges, JCing, death cloning.

Now... This is a completely different position entirely and has little to do with JC per se'. Don't get me wrong, I understand the position you have taken, you may find I could be in agreement, however with reference to your previous post, this thread is about Jump Clones ONLY. As such the arguments you list against ONLY JC can be circumvented by other means rendering your listed arguments irrelevant. Again I'll reiterate that is not to say you have no argument against quick regional travel just that it is slightly misplaced in this particular thread.