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New isk sink, Simple idea, absolutely no drawbacks.
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Black Dranzer
#41 - 2012-04-06 05:06:40 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Silly bobblepubbie, Aurum is real money. Just in fairly high concentrations.

But then it wouldn't be an ISK sink.

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#42 - 2012-04-06 05:07:56 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Silly bobblepubbie, Aurum is real money. Just in fairly high concentrations.

But then it wouldn't be an ISK sink.


Scroll up. Aurum is also ISK.

You see it's the Transitive Property.

It works here as well as in Euclidian Space!

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Mirima Thurander
#43 - 2012-04-06 05:09:30 UTC
i want to be able to change ever thing race gender blood line.


no name changes ever

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#44 - 2012-04-06 05:11:04 UTC
@ OP: Yes, your butt does look huge in that, and I support your wish to have it modified.
If this is about ISK sinks, then even the free portrait changes could have a small price attached, allowing for a few free ones for new players.

However, I'm never changing this avatar. Ever.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#45 - 2012-04-06 05:11:33 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
i want to be able to change ever thing race gender blood line.


no name changes ever


Yeah the way I see it this is fine. NO name changes.

But everything else.

Either for an Aurum fee or, more likely, a fairly substantial and scalar ISK fee.

CCP pick one and do this!

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Black Dranzer
#46 - 2012-04-06 05:13:29 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Scroll up. Aurum is also ISK.

You see it's the Transitive Property.

It works here as well as in Euclidian Space!

My sarcasm detector isn't working properly today, so I'm genuinely not sure if you're actually implying that an Aurum sink is an isk sink.

Also, having an item or service purchasable through both isk AND aurum would be.. potentially more dicey than CCP would likely want to deal with.

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#47 - 2012-04-06 05:15:43 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Scroll up. Aurum is also ISK.

You see it's the Transitive Property.

It works here as well as in Euclidian Space!

My sarcasm detector isn't working properly today, so I'm genuinely not sure if you're actually implying that an Aurum sink is an isk sink.

Also, having an item or service purchasable through both isk AND aurum would be.. potentially more dicey than CCP would likely want to deal with.


Fair enough, ISK isn't destroyed when Aurum are.

I retract some of my snark.

But to be honest even Aurum destruction is going to have a powerful and undeniable effect on the economy of Eve. Evil

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Selinate
#48 - 2012-04-06 05:15:56 UTC
Grumpymunky wrote:
@ OP: Yes, your butt does look huge in that, and I support your wish to have it modified.
If this is about ISK sinks, then even the free portrait changes could have a small price attached, allowing for a few free ones for new players.

However, I'm never changing this avatar. Ever.


Thank you for noticing why I want a recustomization.

(everyone is now going to go look at my avatar and how ridiculous it looks, I don't remember setting it like that at all).
Skorpynekomimi
#49 - 2012-04-06 05:20:46 UTC
YES. So much yes. I had no idea what I was doing when I made this guy in the first place, the recustomisation didn't fix everything, and he needs rid of that stupid duck pout. Before I'm tempted to do a myspace shot on him.

I'd support AUR for it only if they make it cheaper than a full PLEX to by it with ISK.

Economic PVP
Black Dranzer
#50 - 2012-04-06 05:21:45 UTC
Well, maybe you'll get a chance to re-customize when the whole "mixed races" thing comes around.

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Selinate
#51 - 2012-04-06 05:21:52 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:

My sarcasm detector isn't working properly today, so I'm genuinely not sure if you're actually implying that an Aurum sink is an isk sink.

Also, having an item or service purchasable through both isk AND aurum would be.. potentially more dicey than CCP would likely want to deal with.


The reason I don't necessarily see a reason to make this cost Aurum though (even though I would be willing to pay for it), is that this could possibly be something that doesn't get done that often for most players when compared to the plex market itself, where buying and selling of that happens a LOT and is probably rarely used for the purpose of aurum. I honestly don't think it would have much of an effect.

But again, I don't care, I would be willing to pay either.
Selinate
#52 - 2012-04-06 05:23:34 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
Well, maybe you'll get a chance to re-customize when the whole "mixed races" thing comes around.


Again, I do not want "a chance". I want a permanent option to pay for this. The purpose is for the option to exist as an option to players who are dissatisfied and at least have some benefit for the eve community through helping inflation.
Black Dranzer
#53 - 2012-04-06 05:27:39 UTC
Hey, don't get me wrong, I'd love it too. My face is far more derptastic than I'd like.

But CCP are being very very iffy with the whole "potential for microtransactions" thing. It saddens me. Every future upcoming aesthetic change that doesn't exist on a global scale has the potential to be turned into a microtransaction front. I can't get excited about decals or paint jobs for this very reason.

I would love nothing more than for CCP to stick to PLEX (or microplex) as their solitary business model and have everything else be ISK based. I just don't think they're going to do it.

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Selinate
#54 - 2012-04-06 05:47:28 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
Hey, don't get me wrong, I'd love it too. My face is far more derptastic than I'd like.

But CCP are being very very iffy with the whole "potential for microtransactions" thing. It saddens me. Every future upcoming aesthetic change that doesn't exist on a global scale has the potential to be turned into a microtransaction front. I can't get excited about decals or paint jobs for this very reason.

I would love nothing more than for CCP to stick to PLEX (or microplex) as their solitary business model and have everything else be ISK based. I just don't think they're going to do it.


Indeed. I choose not to let go of the idea that CCP can follow through on a good idea on this, at least. It's so simple and completely one-sided in whether or not it should be done (I doubt anyone can think of any reason at all why it shouldn't), that it's just a no-brainer to me.

CCP. Devs. Soundwave, Sreegs, whomever, please do this. Many of your fanbase who don't read the forums would also be VERY happy and you would be doing a great service.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#55 - 2012-04-06 10:41:11 UTC
Lanasak wrote:
sure why not


Because CCP would rather charge a PLEX for it.

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Nimbat
Livets Ord.
#56 - 2012-04-06 11:27:39 UTC
Another isk sink is a good isk sink +1 from me.
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#57 - 2012-04-06 11:33:52 UTC
Why do you think CCP would pass up a chance to slap a microtransaction in their game? They definitely would view adding a ripe vanity only option as ISK only instead of Aurum/Plex as picking their own pocket.
Spy 21
Doomheim
#58 - 2012-04-06 12:10:16 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Is this a trick to try and make me put a shirt on?


I just wanna wear short shorts like Zapp Brannigan :)

S

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Selinate
#59 - 2012-04-06 16:28:15 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Why do you think CCP would pass up a chance to slap a microtransaction in their game? They definitely would view adding a ripe vanity only option as ISK only instead of Aurum/Plex as picking their own pocket.


Because, as I've already posted, this microtransaction would be practically insignificant when compared to plex, it would be worth it more for player retention in helping with inflation.
Selinate
#60 - 2012-04-06 17:17:34 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Is this a trick to try and make me put a shirt on?


I just wanna wear short shorts like Zapp Brannigan :)

S


I support you in all of your endeavors, no matter how wild they may be.

On another note, it's really VERY rare to see this many people agree on a concept on the forums. Ergo, CCP, why not do this?