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CSM 7 - We Should Not Accept This Behavior!!

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Cyrina Manto
RBS Inc.
#521 - 2012-03-29 03:28:14 UTC
Time Funnel wrote:
Cyrina Manto wrote:

Getting elected and having good PR are two different things, you need to stay out of politics.


Implying that I am in, or intending to get into politics. If you call this whole farce politics.


You post like a political zealot, just giving advice to stay away from politics before you hurt your representatives image...
Time Funnel
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#522 - 2012-03-29 03:30:28 UTC
Cyrina Manto wrote:


You post like a political zealot, just giving advice to stay away from politics before you hurt your representatives image...


Nothing can hurt Issler's image. His moral position keeps him above the fray. And this is pretty obvious to anyone who is paying any attention at all.
Cyrina Manto
RBS Inc.
#523 - 2012-03-29 03:32:24 UTC
Time Funnel wrote:
Cyrina Manto wrote:


You post like a political zealot, just giving advice to stay away from politics before you hurt your representatives image...


Nothing can hurt Issler's image. His moral position keeps him above the fray. And this is pretty obvious to anyone who is paying any attention at all.




Point proven, political zealotry. Haha.Roll
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#524 - 2012-03-29 03:35:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Revolution Rising
Cyrina Manto wrote:
Revolution Rising wrote:
We all know what really went on in CSM Skype.

Trebor was sitting behind his dungeon master screen, rolls some dice.

Seleene is yelling about how he's casting heal spells on mittani's wizard.

Trebor calmly turns to mittani "About your wizard dude"

"He..."

"He didn't make it."

Personally, I'd want to make sure everyone had signed their NDA too.



Best post ever.


Well after watching the evetv interview of Trebor, he looks like the guy rolling dice behind the dungeon master screen telling you your paladin is dead.

Plus he made wizardry which I played and played back in the day ;)

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Time Funnel
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#525 - 2012-03-29 03:38:01 UTC
Cyrina Manto wrote:


Point proven, political zealotry. Haha.Roll




So you are saying that there is still a career for me in PR.
Cyrina Manto
RBS Inc.
#526 - 2012-03-29 03:38:46 UTC
Revolution Rising wrote:


Well after watching the evetv interview of Trebor, he looks like the guy rolling dice behind the dungeon master screen telling you your paladin is dead.

Plus he made wizardry which I played and played back in the day ;)



Indeed, that game was awesome. Gonna get me reminiscing about the good old days.
Cyrina Manto
RBS Inc.
#527 - 2012-03-29 03:40:08 UTC
Time Funnel wrote:
Cyrina Manto wrote:


Point proven, political zealotry. Haha.Roll




So you are saying that there is still a career for me in PR.


In the same way Jessie Jackson does PR... Yes. Big smile
Time Funnel
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#528 - 2012-03-29 03:41:27 UTC
Cyrina Manto wrote:
Revolution Rising wrote:


Well after watching the evetv interview of Trebor, he looks like the guy rolling dice behind the dungeon master screen telling you your paladin is dead.

Plus he made wizardry which I played and played back in the day ;)



Indeed, that game was awesome. Gonna get me reminiscing about the good old days.


You guys are such Nerds. With a capital N.

Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#529 - 2012-03-29 03:45:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Hans Jagerblitzen
Frying Doom wrote:

I agree completely, this one was pretty straight forward and we should have heard from each CSM member as they got home ect.. condemning it. Not a we will get back to you in a few days message. Why does the world believe that because you are elected we should expect less of people not more.


Has anyone considered that Alex's behavior was so clearly reprehensible that it seemed silly to need to go ON THE RECORD! with such immediacy, especially when this has nothing to do with CSM7, and it has nothing to do with us individually?

Many of us weren't at fanfest, Alex only represented himself in his actions, CCP makes the ultimate the call regarding ToS and EULA stuff, and the CSM7 doesn't even exist yet.

There's just no reason for anyone to go around castigating the CSM7 candidates who haven't even taken office for not coming out and making a dog and pony show out of their piety. I think it's both tedious and unnecessary to expect that each one of us individually affirms that every inappropriate act is indeed inappropriate, and frankly I consider it one of our responsibilities as CSM members to learn all the information we can about a situation before we start pointing the finger at each other publicly.

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Cyrina Manto
RBS Inc.
#530 - 2012-03-29 03:45:45 UTC
Time Funnel wrote:


You guys are such Nerds. With a capital N.



Don't get me started, D&D hasnt been the same since v2. Then again, neither have computers since the great downfall of Rendition and 3DFX.
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#531 - 2012-03-29 03:57:46 UTC
Time Funnel wrote:
Cyrina Manto wrote:
Revolution Rising wrote:


Well after watching the evetv interview of Trebor, he looks like the guy rolling dice behind the dungeon master screen telling you your paladin is dead.

Plus he made wizardry which I played and played back in the day ;)



Indeed, that game was awesome. Gonna get me reminiscing about the good old days.


You guys are such Nerds. With a capital N.



So in 20 years when you tell someone, oh yeah I used to play Eve.

And they go "You're such a nerd" your response will be what ?

srsly... think before u poast.

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Time Funnel
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#532 - 2012-03-29 04:00:32 UTC
Revolution Rising wrote:


So in 20 years when you tell someone, oh yeah I used to play Eve.

And they go "You're such a nerd" your response will be what ?

srsly... think before u poast.


My response will be to light a 2,000$ note or whatever 100$ has inflated up to by then and say. Yeah, well at least I am rich.
Cyrina Manto
RBS Inc.
#533 - 2012-03-29 04:03:42 UTC
Time Funnel wrote:
Revolution Rising wrote:


So in 20 years when you tell someone, oh yeah I used to play Eve.

And they go "You're such a nerd" your response will be what ?

srsly... think before u poast.


My response will be to light a 2,000$ note or whatever 100$ has inflated up to by then and say. Yeah, well at least I am rich.



I see, you take the Rick James approach...

I'M RICH *****!!!
yoyaz
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#534 - 2012-03-29 04:08:29 UTC
Remove ALL CSM's.

They are ******* pointless anyway.
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#535 - 2012-03-29 04:14:13 UTC
Andski wrote:
Issler, capitalizing on a depressed player for your own in-game political gain makes you a hypocrite.


What if he commits suicide, how would the piece of **** OP feel then?
Kai Tel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#536 - 2012-03-29 04:25:57 UTC
*YAWN* I would think that by now it's all moot thanks to CCP. I can't even come up with a good troll much less a substantive post for "this" thread right now. Y'all have fun. I'll plus one like you if you can entertain me.
Sidus Sarmiang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#537 - 2012-03-29 04:58:36 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

I agree completely, this one was pretty straight forward and we should have heard from each CSM member as they got home ect.. condemning it. Not a we will get back to you in a few days message. Why does the world believe that because you are elected we should expect less of people not more.


Has anyone considered that Alex's behavior was so clearly reprehensible that it seemed silly to need to go ON THE RECORD! with such immediacy, especially when this has nothing to do with CSM7, and it has nothing to do with us individually?

Many of us weren't at fanfest, Alex only represented himself in his actions, CCP makes the ultimate the call regarding ToS and EULA stuff, and the CSM7 doesn't even exist yet.

There's just no reason for anyone to go around castigating the CSM7 candidates who haven't even taken office for not coming out and making a dog and pony show out of their piety. I think it's both tedious and unnecessary to expect that each one of us individually affirms that every inappropriate act is indeed inappropriate, and frankly I consider it one of our responsibilities as CSM members to learn all the information we can about a situation before we start pointing the finger at each other publicly.



Even if I'm against you, you sound too damn reasonable.

I'm glad not all pubbies are like you or screwing with them wouldn't be nearly as fun.

Fortunately, plenty are like Issler, including Issler, and hopefully her alliance.
Macon Chalaise
VNM Biological Survey Corps
#538 - 2012-03-29 05:12:32 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

I agree completely, this one was pretty straight forward and we should have heard from each CSM member as they got home ect.. condemning it. Not a we will get back to you in a few days message. Why does the world believe that because you are elected we should expect less of people not more.


Has anyone considered that Alex's behavior was so clearly reprehensible that it seemed silly to need to go ON THE RECORD! with such immediacy, especially when this has nothing to do with CSM7, and it has nothing to do with us individually?

Many of us weren't at fanfest, Alex only represented himself in his actions, CCP makes the ultimate the call regarding ToS and EULA stuff, and the CSM7 doesn't even exist yet.

There's just no reason for anyone to go around castigating the CSM7 candidates who haven't even taken office for not coming out and making a dog and pony show out of their piety. I think it's both tedious and unnecessary to expect that each one of us individually affirms that every inappropriate act is indeed inappropriate, and frankly I consider it one of our responsibilities as CSM members to learn all the information we can about a situation before we start pointing the finger at each other publicly.


This.

No ones votes were wasted. Mittens was in fact elected to the CSM and the chair...and then he screwed up.

He's the ONLY person any of you "I CAN HAZ RELECTION?" people should be mad at.

Besides, once he committed himself to stepping down his fate was sealed anyway if he wanted to have any integrity.

Mittens did the right thing by stepping down even if only because he said he would.

Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast
Frying Doom
#539 - 2012-03-29 05:33:10 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

I agree completely, this one was pretty straight forward and we should have heard from each CSM member as they got home ect.. condemning it. Not a we will get back to you in a few days message. Why does the world believe that because you are elected we should expect less of people not more.


Has anyone considered that Alex's behavior was so clearly reprehensible that it seemed silly to need to go ON THE RECORD! with such immediacy, especially when this has nothing to do with CSM7, and it has nothing to do with us individually?

Many of us weren't at fanfest, Alex only represented himself in his actions, CCP makes the ultimate the call regarding ToS and EULA stuff, and the CSM7 doesn't even exist yet.

There's just no reason for anyone to go around castigating the CSM7 candidates who haven't even taken office for not coming out and making a dog and pony show out of their piety. I think it's both tedious and unnecessary to expect that each one of us individually affirms that every inappropriate act is indeed inappropriate, and frankly I consider it one of our responsibilities as CSM members to learn all the information we can about a situation before we start pointing the finger at each other publicly.

Ok personally I really don't see the need to continue this but I will respond to this dreg.

You are saying that as people voted in a representatives of EVE you believe you should be quiet at things that are "clearly reprehensible" and should not comment during a crisis. As for nothing to do with the CSM, he didn't do it as the CSM chairman but he was the CSM6 chairman and about to be made the chairman for the CSM 7, so yes I would definitely say it was concerning the CSM, when their chairman is acting with "behavior was so clearly reprehensible". As to individually it would have been a good thing to show that you are a body of individuals capable of independent thought.

But yet you have poked fingers at other CSM members independently of the CSM just not your former chairman, for what you claim was inappropriate behavior.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#540 - 2012-03-29 06:55:07 UTC
Macon Chalaise wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

I agree completely, this one was pretty straight forward and we should have heard from each CSM member as they got home ect.. condemning it. Not a we will get back to you in a few days message. Why does the world believe that because you are elected we should expect less of people not more.


Has anyone considered that Alex's behavior was so clearly reprehensible that it seemed silly to need to go ON THE RECORD! with such immediacy, especially when this has nothing to do with CSM7, and it has nothing to do with us individually?

Many of us weren't at fanfest, Alex only represented himself in his actions, CCP makes the ultimate the call regarding ToS and EULA stuff, and the CSM7 doesn't even exist yet.

There's just no reason for anyone to go around castigating the CSM7 candidates who haven't even taken office for not coming out and making a dog and pony show out of their piety. I think it's both tedious and unnecessary to expect that each one of us individually affirms that every inappropriate act is indeed inappropriate, and frankly I consider it one of our responsibilities as CSM members to learn all the information we can about a situation before we start pointing the finger at each other publicly.


This.

No ones votes were wasted. Mittens was in fact elected to the CSM and the chair...and then he screwed up.

He's the ONLY person any of you "I CAN HAZ RELECTION?" people should be mad at.

Besides, once he committed himself to stepping down his fate was sealed anyway if he wanted to have any integrity.

Mittens did the right thing by stepping down even if only because he said he would.


Pretty much this.

There is no reason for a revote.

You were not disfranchised you got to vote.

Your boy blew it for you.

Take it up with him. He is the one the thew away your votes not ccp.

Alternates exist or a reason.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **