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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3421 - 2012-03-28 16:03:11 UTC
Abriael VonRosen wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The irony of all this is the people who are outraged by this are being even bigger bullies than the comment mittens made ever was.


I seriously doubt that asking for an elected representative to actually face the consequences of his actions can be in any way compared to "bullying".


Dragging his name through the mud across as many news sites as you can is not worse than making a drunken bad joke at an event where nothing said is expected to be taken seriously and would have been qquickly forgotten about if not for the white knighter and people with an axe to grind?
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3422 - 2012-03-28 16:03:23 UTC
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.
ExhumeToConsume
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3423 - 2012-03-28 16:03:46 UTC
Abriael VonRosen wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The irony of all this is the people who are outraged by this are being even bigger bullies than the comment mittens made ever was.


I seriously doubt that asking for an elected representative to actually face the consequences of his actions can be in any way compared to "bullying".


It is when they lie by fabricating information, insult overweight people by using weight as a negative personal insult and indicate that they'd like to see a person's real life negatively impacted. All without the slightest trace of irony
APC
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3424 - 2012-03-28 16:03:57 UTC
I bet that with this EVE cyber bullying he is actually compensating for something!
Perhaps he have been bullied himself...or still being bullied. Anyhow, issues issues...

Being drunk on stage saying something like that is a characteristic of immature child.
He probably sees himself as some great guy who accomplished something for being CSM and CEO of the alliance...but the way I see it he is just another noob with not much of a real life.

And finally, I wonder what was in your head while you were saying that? What makes people wanting to harm other people
whom they don't even know in order to make themselves feel empowered ?! Just how sick is that!! Go have sex..fells even better!

And you represent population of EVE online?! Well you don't represent me!! I am not an idiot!
Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#3425 - 2012-03-28 16:04:41 UTC
de4deye wrote:
If Mittani cared, he would:
- Step down from CSM all together
- Tell his zerglings to quit being badposters on the forums and tell them to quit posting with npc alts
- Biomass his character
- Never come back

No one is fooled by his crappy apology.


Titans will still be nerfed no matter what The Mittani does.
ExhumeToConsume
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3426 - 2012-03-28 16:04:57 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.


Your alliance name trivialises mental illness and could cause people to go over the edge.
Illwill Bill
End of employment history
#3427 - 2012-03-28 16:05:15 UTC
Derp.
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3428 - 2012-03-28 16:05:22 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.


TOS doesn't apply to real life.
de4deye
Phantom Space
Space Madness.
#3429 - 2012-03-28 16:06:23 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:
de4deye wrote:
If Mittani cared, he would:
- Step down from CSM all together
- Tell his zerglings to quit being badposters on the forums and tell them to quit posting with npc alts
- Biomass his character
- Never come back

No one is fooled by his crappy apology.


Titans will still be nerfed no matter what The Mittani does.

Who cares? I don't even have a titan lol. How come this is what goons say to everything, have nothing real on your mind?
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3430 - 2012-03-28 16:06:30 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.


you forgot the "p" at the end of the second link.
But yes people have been perma banned for alot less regretfully.Straight
Jean-Derp deCurrency
ISKesis Trust Fund
#3431 - 2012-03-28 16:06:49 UTC
vidyagames lol

As far as I'm concerned, Mittens deserved an apology from the guy, not the other way around : you don't go around and try to make people feel guilty for random internet spaceship stuff.
The only thing that might have been needed after the presentation would have been for ccp to change the dude's nick and that's about it really.

If ccp doesn't want that kind of stuff to happen they should shut down eve and not host drinking games on stage.
Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#3432 - 2012-03-28 16:06:50 UTC
APC wrote:
I bet that with this EVE cyber bullying he is actually compensating for something!



Do I really need to say this again...

By calling what The Mittani did 'cyber-bullying' you are trivializing all the victims of real, harmful cyber-bullying out there.

You are a bad person, and should be ashamed.

i'm not saying what The Mittani did was in good taste, it simply pales in comparison to the real level of unescapable online bullying thousands of children and adolescents face everyday.
Giuliano Verti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3433 - 2012-03-28 16:07:01 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.
de4deye
Phantom Space
Space Madness.
#3434 - 2012-03-28 16:08:15 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:
de4deye wrote:
If Mittani cared, he would:
- Step down from CSM all together
- Tell his zerglings to quit being badposters on the forums and tell them to quit posting with npc alts
- Biomass his character
- Never come back

No one is fooled by his crappy apology.


Titans will still be nerfed no matter what The Mittani does.

Who cares? Lol I don't even own a titan. Is this all goons have on their mind? This seems to be the only response goons can gather for everything I say, sad to be you.
Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3435 - 2012-03-28 16:08:39 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Giuliano Verti wrote:
From Mitanni Twitter:

Just landed.
Step one, apologize profusely.
Step two, resign.
Step three, send all my isk to the victim.
Entirely my fault and unacceptable.

Just a friendly reminder

Resign now!

Be nice if he keeps his word and resigns from the CSM, be a disgrace if he doesn't and on top of this CCP may have to give him a greater punishment. Hope not but they can hardly ban others for less and let him off.


The very best you guys are going to get is him stepping down as chairman, and even that's not certain. Sorry!
Orkasm
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3436 - 2012-03-28 16:08:55 UTC
Giuliano Verti wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.



No they haven't, Mittani did nothing ingame that would constitute a break of ToS or EULA.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#3437 - 2012-03-28 16:09:37 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
I'm going to have to remind you that all of this only holds water if you believe that his statement was a serious request to drive a man to suicide, instead of a bad drunken joke (in the same vein as the entire presentation that came before) about giving an idiot a hard time.


I believe it was a serious attempt to have somebody harrassed and to misuse the authority and visibility of the CSM chair position.Sure it happened on the alliance panel - but we're seen all the chair for life nonsense and didn't Alexander proclaim himself the "king of space" on that panel which is his code for csm chair?

Ranger 1 wrote:
If we went back over all of the statements and posts that you have made through the years and picked out all of the quips, jabs and amusing insults that we would find there... and spun them out of context to appear as if you were deadly serious in stating them... I don't think you'd like how you ended up looking.


You'd be hard pushed to find me trying to organize mass harrassment of a depressive eve player that much I can tell you. Plenty of forum tears sure enough, but generally my wit is employed against those that have declared themselves well able to take it (usually by getting involved in forum rough and tumbles)

Ranger 1 wrote:
Something for you to consider, lest the camera ever catch you inadvertantly letting slip with something that could be twisted to make you look like a psycho. I'm pretty sure you know just how easily that can happen.


And I also know how it can be avoided. I have worked with media and PR all my adult life and have never yet given a presentation while steaming drunk.


Then you know full well that your considerable volume of amusing quips, insults, and yes even erotica are only amusing if taken in proper context of the conversation taking place. However you seem more than willing to ignore the rest of the constant stream of ribald jokes and cutting remarks that preceded the remark in question and paint it as a serious request.

Usually you don't slap the blinders on like that and try to at least exhibit some willingness to understand the context behind what someone is saying, even with they disagree with you. I'm simply trying to tell you that your stance on this seems to mask an unwillingness to do so in this case... for whatever reason.

This isn't meant as a personal attack, just pointing out something that perhaps you yourself are not aware of.

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weasil421
Doomheim
#3438 - 2012-03-28 16:10:14 UTC
The only problem I see with The Mittanni retaining any form of post on the CSM is that it took the viral responses of thousands of eve players to make him aware of his actions as he apparently saw nothing wrong with what he had done well before fanfest/bragging about said actions. I think CCP needs to take this into consideration. I think Mittani should resign entirely from the CSM as this is not representative of the great players of this game.
The F Word
Doomheim
#3439 - 2012-03-28 16:11:20 UTC  |  Edited by: The F Word
There's no sense in fretting about the TOS, if CCP wants to permaban him, or anyone and everyone else, they can - and they will.

CCP holds all of the cards, they own all the property, they allow us to make use of 1's and 0's on their server as an entertainment service.
Frying Doom
#3440 - 2012-03-28 16:11:23 UTC
Daviclond wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Giuliano Verti wrote:
From Mitanni Twitter:

Just landed.
Step one, apologize profusely.
Step two, resign.
Step three, send all my isk to the victim.
Entirely my fault and unacceptable.

Just a friendly reminder

Resign now!

Be nice if he keeps his word and resigns from the CSM, be a disgrace if he doesn't and on top of this CCP may have to give him a greater punishment. Hope not but they can hardly ban others for less and let him off.


The very best you guys are going to get is him stepping down as chairman, and even that's not certain. Sorry!

They can hardly do things like what they did with HB and then give Mittens less for something worse.

Frankly HB got a rough ride but it will cause a lot of uproar if Mittens gets less for doing worse things.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!