Jita Park Speakers Corner

You still aren't going to Iceland.

The bolded part is ******* ********. No accounts less than 30 days old were allowed to vote. The numbers posted were for accounts greater than 30 days but less than 250 days old. Which is actually a huge portion of players.

All this chest slapping over <30 day old accounts is stupid and you are all idiots.

nope, its never that


we should alert the press about this clearly suicidal man

It didn't even turn out all that well Looks kind of greasy and the eyeshadow is a little tacky. Wait, does this count as an ad hominem insult? Well, most of this thread is crap anyway, don't care.

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Also, RE: "Shadow Council" or whatever other cloak and dagger game some people think the CSM is playing. IMO it shouldn't be a requirement that stuff like votes on known issues and whatnot are kept quiet, the members should be able to divulge some information about their own actions if they want to. Nor should total openness be a requirement! I think that throwing everything up for public scrutiny as it happens is a pretty terrible idea. A lot of stuff that's discussed by CSM members is just idea-bouncing and tidbits of some thought process, but it won't stop drama mongers from seizing it and starting a shitposting flamefest. Additionally, discussion might touch ever so lightly on information that isn't meant to be released to the masses just yet (because it's not fully fleshed out, or whatever the reason). The NDA covers that, of course, but it is sometimes difficult to avoid the slightest mentions of something that someone keen might pick up on, lines can get blurry.

Electing representatives means that you trust them to act wisely on behalf of the constituency rather than making every decision directly guided by said constituency. Whether you think this is good or bad is irrelevant: this is how the CSM works, if you think it's awful and terrible then work to change it or STFU. IF the representative thinks there's good reason for them to keep something off public forums, there might be a good reason for it. If they never ever talk to the people they represent, then consider this a negative point on their record and feel free to feel cheated, betrayed, etc, and rescind your support if you counted on it being different based on what the candidate said in the past. There must be accountability and this demands transparency, but transparency doesn't necessarily mean that EVERYTHING must be put up for the players to inspect. For one, the forums would explode

Otherwise, trust the representatives to make a good decision, criticize them for a bad one, etc, but don't assume that they will act 100% of the time in a way that you personally agree with, and that if they act in a manner you disagree with it automatically means they aren't suitable for their post. Some things are a matter of opinion. Though if enough people express it, it's wise to listen to it and perhaps do more than merely take note, at least if re-election or public image are a concern

Whether this is purely politically motivated or not is really unimportant. If you set yourself up as a world class dbag in a position of pseudo-power, someone is going to take advantage of it. If not Issler, then someone else.

Issler, most other CSM members are not speaking out because, sadly, they are better politicians than you. Wanting to discuss it, get the facts, wait for investigations, and other such excuses are just ploys to buy more time in neutrality while waiting for others (CCP or Mttani) to do the work for them. The evidence is public and irrefuteable, and not taking a stance immediately is simply being political.

I wish there were more like you.

LOOK AT ME GUEIS IM AN INTERNET POLITIK.



IM FINALLY IMPORTANT MOM!

My god man, you distilled the entire thread into 12 words

except that it's a very real possiblity he may get sued irl. And any of u mouthbreathing pubies that actually emailed wis a "do it man" email......that's stepping in it. I hate things like this end up getting settled in court. These things were meant to be settled like grown ass men. Alas I speak of a world long gone unfortunately.

OK, 30d-plus. Like 1 day makes a real difference in whom one would vote for if they were alt-characters, assuming they were created in time?

Whatever.

L2inferfromcontext

How is she doing this exactly?

E: And no, I didn't vote for her--her interests are not much aligned with mine.