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My Apology

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Pedro Snachez
Red Horse Heavy Industries
#521 - 2012-03-27 02:35:11 UTC
In the words of Family Guy Spider Man - Everybody gets one.
Princess Nana
Doomheim
#522 - 2012-03-27 02:35:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Nana
Nothing can excuse what transpired.

He has embarrassed himself, embarrassed CCP and has made a mockery of the rest of the Eve Playerbase.

Given the soon to be connection between Dust 514 and Eve Online, I can only imagine any Sony Representative watching the conduct of the CSM Chairman would have been mortified.

How can this man go forward saying he represents the best interests of the community?
Lord Fargo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#523 - 2012-03-27 02:35:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Fargo
Just found out about this now, so here's my thoughts, was it in bad taste? Yes, has it damaged this games reputation with the rest of the gaming community? Most certainly,as it's already hitting major gaming websites already.

Now, is he to blame for this? No,I believe it's ccps for allowing drunken neck beards on stage fueled with alcohol giving presentations, having just watched some footage on YouTube it's quite frankly cringe worthy and awkward to watch and has yet again smashed another body blow to ccps reputation (if they still have a good one)
Clyde ElectraGlide
Zankilim Regiment
#524 - 2012-03-27 02:36:51 UTC
Eian wrote:
Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:
, and you seem legitimately sorry for what happened I say live and let die.


I've got some BPO's I want to sell for real cheap. Let's talk.




I know it might be hard for you to believe, but people can actually give sincere apologies. Shocking, I know.

In Need of a New Signature

Alexandra Alt
Doomheim
#525 - 2012-03-27 02:37:03 UTC
Krutoj wrote:
I forgot to mention something in my earlier posts.


The reason why we are all posting about this is basically the following:

Carebear got ganked and tried to compel his ganker with a pitiful message that could be true or not true or not entirely true.
The ganker forwarded the message to Mittani that he used later on in his Alliance Panel presentation.
Mittani made some comments about the message, laughing in the essence at how carebear tried to get compassion out of his enemy.

I too get angry and sometimes sad messages from people, sometimes they are just as simple as "I cant afford a new ship". I do send people reimbursement ISK, but I dont send them when they are trying to play on a pity towards mentaly sick. Partly because I know those and the last thing they want is to be treated so. So why are you all trying to do the opposite?

Also, for those of you with "In real life he should be sentenced for this" issues, this is Eve Online, welcome to the SandBox.


Well, D3 I understand, he makes a bad figure of himself for years already, but I would advise you not to continue to make a bad figure of yourself, that is if you want people with brains in this game to not have a bad opinion of yourself.

There are the haters and the supporters of The Mittani, pretty much many of those are biased and don't really care about the issue, then there's the unbiased, and the coherent ones who actually judge the issue not by it's content, but by it's actions, which has nothing to do with what you're trying to portray in your posts.

So, that comming from a CSM (specially considering the only other CSM who posted was two step and was more or less 'neutral' on the subject and D3 who doesn't really matter as we all know his passioned hate for The Mittani) you probably want to think quite thoroughly about what you write.

Best regards.
XxTheKmanxX
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#526 - 2012-03-27 02:37:08 UTC
Ulesi wrote:
Prove that you are truly sorry. Resign.



you must own a titan......
JamesCLK
#527 - 2012-03-27 02:37:51 UTC
This is almost as bad as monoclegate... except we're not unanimously yelling at CCP.

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Alexandra Alt
Doomheim
#528 - 2012-03-27 02:38:03 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Next time he will drink Long Johnson instead of Jack Daniels.


My god, they both suck!
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#529 - 2012-03-27 02:39:17 UTC
XxTheKmanxX wrote:
Ulesi wrote:
Prove that you are truly sorry. Resign.



you must own a titan......


Goon defending a Goon.
Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#530 - 2012-03-27 02:39:20 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
But what happened at fanfest had nothing to do with "the mittani" the character. It was Alex gianturkeyo ripping on some other player as the leader of Eve's player council in the view of the cameras in a performance that was immediately replayed and analysed by the gaming press.

He did it as himself, the leader of the CSM. And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable.


You're kinda full of **** since it was the alliance panel and nothing to do with the CSM, he was speaking as the leader of Goonswarm, not as the leader of the CSM, there's a huge difference.

PS; as a genuine independent eve player I consider his apology and 10.7 bil isk reparations paid more than enough to make up for his mistake
Araviel
Epic.
#531 - 2012-03-27 02:40:04 UTC
Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:
Demarcus wrote:
As my former CEO I love you Tyrrax, but what does what he used to do in real life have to do with anything. If he has any respect for the position he was voted into he needs to resign it.

I don't know what makes me feel sicker, the events at question or the CEO of GHSC going PL.


I was just correcting the guy I was quoting about the lawyer thing.
Why should Mittani resign over something as trivial as this ? "victim" seems fine, and rich because of of Mittani's mistake.

Public apology, reparations...
Seems excessive to me to expect more, 10000 people voted him in, and vast majority of them would sure as **** vote him in again if elections were held right now.

PS; Why does me joining PL make you feel sick ? lol


it could maybe have been trivial, if apology and reparations had been done quick enough.
(however it shouldnt have happend in the first place)
instead it got blown up to this and media got a hold of it.
and you know about the impact media can have on the game.

we can hope media buys into the apology, but i have my doubts about that.

Rob Daphiti
Doomheim
#532 - 2012-03-27 02:40:17 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:



Well mr no linebreak. The simple answer is that when this stuff gets done in the game its assumed to be "in character" - its "the mittani" being a nasty piece of work to some random space pilot and his barge or "the mittani" scamming some space academy guy or "the mittani" doing some spying stuff and claiming the credit for some other guys fail cascading etc.

But what happened at fanfest had nothing to do with "the mittani" the character. It was Alex gianturkeyo ripping on some other player as the leader of Eve's player council in the view of the cameras in a performance that was immediately replayed and analysed by the gaming press.

If you mr nolinebreaks where to go and ransom some dude at an asteroid belt and say nasty things about his manhood (or lack therein) nobody would really care because you didn't have a tv crew recording it and streaming onto the internet.

And thats another difference really. When you stand for CSM elections you agree to set an example by your real life behaviour for other players and the example that Alex set on stage at fanfest was a frankly terrible one - indulging in a nasty little case of cyberbullying and namecalling and incitement to harrass some other player for the laughs and indulgent of his circlejerk.

He did it as himself, the leader of the CSM. And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable.


He acted the same as he acts in game and he acts that way sober when playing. You play the part you enjoy. If a guy acts like that in game how do think he would be in RL if there was no social stigma against it they would act the same as they enjoy. If he wasn't drunk he would have most likely acted in a way that was socially accepted. But you know how that true serum works bring out who you really are. People would not act the way they do in game if they didn't enjoy it. The way you act in game is what you are in RL or would like to be if there was no repercussions,
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#533 - 2012-03-27 02:40:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
Ulesi wrote:
Prove that you are truly sorry. Resign.


I want a Mittani corpse.

Everyone should get Mittani corpses. Only then will i be convinced of his sincerity.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Demarcus
Killjoy.
#534 - 2012-03-27 02:40:41 UTC
Taedrin wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Unlike most of the EVE players who are posting, especially those brainwashed to GoonThink, the REAL WORLD TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.

CCP will unfortunately now have to insert certain rules into our Game.

Sony, known for it's campaign against cyber-bullying, is now in a perfect position to drop Dust 514 like a Hot Potato.

THIS is exactly the kind of crap that kind of company will not deal with. At all.

Things will change unfortunately.

They absolutely will if CCP, no longer the truly independent free-spirit of the gaming world, wants to continue courting businesses like Sony and NVidia.

This kind of press to Sony: no Sir, they don't like it.

But then, when the mittani (I just can't capitalize it after this) brought the Goons over to OUR game, he said it was with the intent to destroy the game for everyone.

His words.

Congratulations Sir, you have succeeded beyond your wildest dreams.


Quoted for truth.



Quote is taken out of context. Goons originally came to EVE with the intent to destroy it, but loved it so much that they stayed.


No, they just failed miserably.
Razin
The Scope
#535 - 2012-03-27 02:40:49 UTC
Derrick Munroe wrote:
Hey guys, hate to stop the "BAN MITTINI" circlejerk, but now for a dousing of evidence and facts (scary I know)...

Quote:
[21:10:18] Xeross155 > Heya
[21:10:22] The Wis > Hello
[21:10:29] Xeross155 > Getting swarmed with interviews I can imagine
[21:10:50] The Wis > No why?
[21:11:57] Xeross155 > With this BS and all http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/
[21:12:21] Xeross155 > Pretty sure the name Mittani called out was "The Wis"
[21:12:31] The Wis > Oh I will have to check that out.. What is going on?
[21:12:58] Xeross155 > You sent him a mail when you got scammed and your Mackinaws destroyed or smth
[21:13:41] Xeross155 > Or at least one of his alliance mates
[21:14:13] The Wis > Could have.. been a long time. Might have been when they had the safe mining offer when you guys were doing your anti ice thing.
[21:15:08] The Wis > I did have someone ask me if I was ok.. Becouse he said that I had killed myself afterwards and he thought it was funny.. I did not see it so I have no clue what was said.
[21:15:52] Xeross155 > Basically some idiots are all butthurt and are calling for him to step down from CSM and ****
[21:16:51] Xeross155 > Basically, enjoy your 5 minutes of fame, multiple gaming press websites are putting the story up
[21:16:58] Xeross155 > Leaving out your name though
[21:16:59] Xeross155 > one sec
[21:19:54] The Wis > Well I am not sure what is going on.. I know I have had some people say I should put a pentition in. Witch I have not. Since I have not seen the video or anything. But that would also explain why the goons are moving into my system now and starting
[21:19:57] The Wis > ganking here.
[21:24:54] Xeross155 > http://youtu.be/E7Ki91U-mBE?t=1h11m55s
[21:26:17] Xeross155 > That's basically the snippet that people are upset about for some reason
[21:29:34] Xeross155 > Anyway, CCP is doing an internal audit and **** about it, 3 game news websites have reported it so far, basically tagging it cyber-bullying
[21:30:50] The Wis > Ok.. Well that is nice. Hmm.. wait.. If i do kill my self they might arrest him and prosicute him since he is in the US.. That would really be bad for him.
[21:31:01] The Wis > Just kidding of course but a thought.

[21:31:20] The Wis > Fly safe. I have real life stuff to do now.. ANd to watch for goons in system.. Fun Fun.


The guy doesn't care. Even joked about it. The entire thing is so incredibly overblown, doubtless by those very people who detested the fact that Mittani was elected democratically for CSM chair (by a landslide).

Just saw this thread and got to wondering if "the victim" even knows about what's going on, there being not a single post from him on these forums. And now this post.

What can I say? Most people are idiots. And that's a fact.
Calanthe Maulerant
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#536 - 2012-03-27 02:41:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Calanthe Maulerant
Zagdul wrote:
Calanthe Maulerant wrote:
YOU ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE SPACE KING OF MY HEART.


WTF am I?

GIVE ME ATTENTION TOO


maaaaaaaaaaaaaaai alliance ceo ~~ i'd follow you if you left FA.

BBQ FTW > mity calanthe

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#537 - 2012-03-27 02:41:18 UTC
Kitfox Mikakka wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable.


And you're completely ignoring every single independent eve player who's saying they support him and his apology. But that's no real surprise.


You goons really aren't saying anything apart from "la la la I'm not listening la la la" (and putting your hands over your ears while reading out prepared memes somebody else made earlier.)

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Nirnaeth Ornoediad
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#538 - 2012-03-27 02:42:06 UTC
Everyone gets one bite of the apple. Hell, we're all still subscribers, and CCP releases Incarna. Their apology came in the form of Crucible.

Alex ****** up, apologized, and now we all need to be big boys and girls and recognize the value of an apology and move on.

Enough Kindergarten lessons. Le'ts go pew pew in an ice belt or something.

Fix POSes.  Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one).

Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#539 - 2012-03-27 02:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk
People who claim goons came to eve to destroy it are ignorant and wrong.
Zanmaru
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#540 - 2012-03-27 02:42:36 UTC
I'll buy it. I won't shed a tear if Mittani gets booted from CSM, but nor will I call for his resignation. Honestly, I'm more irritated by a community that will mindlessly flock to defend such behavior.

Kinda pulls the rug out from under you to have the guy you're defending admit to his wrongdoing, doesn't it?