Out of Pod Experience

PLEASE READ DISCLAIMER BEFORE REPLYING TO THREAD IF YOU INTEND TO TROLL OR FLAME


EA/Bioware Official server status link below.

http://www.swtor.com/server-status


Also read

http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=255

swtor.com on their forums, wow I am a bit shocked to be honest, I know from my own experience that the game sucks and would fail but when I quit and deleted it my EU server was very heavy and minimum heavy.

EA real figures like they did with warhammer online.

It seem that the 2 million sold copies were to retail and the 1.7 million subs was at end of December and that the only real data provided by EA as to how many play the game is that "Most" people still play


EA, we love you /not

So, Warhammer failed and now SWToR right? So third time's the charm?

edit; I forgot about the Earth & Beyond, so I guess that is 3 failed MMORPG games by EA?

First one killed Westwood studios, second killed Mythic, Bioware next?

EA, where companies go to die.


TORTANIC the movie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5F0A2B8fmU&feature=related


I will always remember the Biodrones exemplified in the movie below, they have a special place among fandom


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2zkzXX3XE&feature=related


Links to XFire server stats and more on second page.

PS: Read my replies on this and second page to answer any questions you might have or just want more data and interesting articles and information about their failure and how and why it failed. I will try to add some more funny videos as well or whatever. I promise deep and insightful comments and discussion on page 2 and beyond, no really

http://investor.ea.com/stockquote.cfm 52 week all time low reached


DISCLAIMER:

It seems that a few people in this thread has taken serious offense to my OP trying to derail the topic, troll and just go crazy. It is sad to see someone so hurt by SWToR having failed, and have someone point that out to them. I was also let down when I quit after having spent the money and time not to mention having to wait for the game over many years, but I also never went to the extremes of denial and hating a person for calling out SWToR for what it is, Tortanic, epic fail in massive possibly biggest ever proportions in video gaming history.

I think I may have to state once more the reasons for this thread to make some people understand. First is the fact that SWToR was touted and believed to be the biggest threat to Blizzard's WoW (king of MMORPG's) and other MMO's such as EvE Online. It is also the world most expensive video game in history. Second reason is because the game is a terrible game, it really is, half the game is broken both in PVP and PVE and the engine, dx9?! and other problems with the game. They also did false advertising, most likely bribed the media and made a PR spin on bad numbers (read further in this thread to my sources and arguments etc.)

Third reason is because of the open warfare Biodrones have declared on EvE Online and the rest of the MMORPG genre. Their forums have countless threads and posts about how EvE Online is dead, SWToR has better PVP and worse lies. When fact is they could not be further from the truth and their game that they laud is a complete failure both as a game but also by its reception, bad sales, bad subscription numbers and all signs show that is has died. Their own forums is on fire, worse than the worst example of a gamefaqs.

Fourth reason I made this thread is because unlike when I quit awhile back, I am now, as of creation of the OP, certain that this game is already a failure, dying and taking the same route as Warhammer Online, which everyone agrees on was and is a failure and considered "dead", with proof to back it up. You may argue with me or try and prove me wrong, but calling everything I have posted to be pure baseless opinion is wrong. I have provided enough data and places for you to go and look for yourself (check my other posts in the thread.) Also several times someone misquote me or take things out of context in order to "beat" me on this thread, I also see some people struggle with basic English and starting arguments because they can't comprehend the meaning or by contradicting everything I say just for the sake of it.

Just remember, I have quoted your posts and answered them so by doing what I described previously, you just make yourself out to look like someone very ignorant or even worse, a Biodrone.

Fifth and final reason is because it is fun, it really is fun me and many of my friends take great pleasure in this. It is EA who published it, their mistakes are so bad you can't help but to joke about it. It is also fun because Biodrones have been going on for years calling it the best game ever made, I was hyped but come on, let's be serious here. Media such as G4 TV named it best game ever made scoring 100/100, it is a circus and their servers and forums reflect more the score of MMORPG.com that gave it 6/10, but that reviewer was fired, review was then deleted and replaced with a top score review. This stuff is video gaming gold, not to mention you have upcoming lawsuits appearing before court soon between EA and Blizzard for espionage and more. How am I and others suppose to sit at the sidelines and not comment on this biggest drama and epic failures etc in the last 10 years of video gaming industry? We can't and shouldn't!

I end this disclaimer by once again pointing out, if this thread bothers you so much, don't read it

If you survived the DISCLAIMER you deserve this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNDaG7YqaV4 SWToR-A New MEME!

Ehm, the European Servers are all at standard population at 5 pm, so before primetime. That is not really bad...
Of course the servers were full in the first month after release, because... well... it was the first month.

I think you are pretty much overinterpreting.

I doubt that they lied, not only where those figures externally verified lying in official stockholder finical reports is punished by prosecution. So during the time period those statistics refer to they are completely accurate.

I do agree that the OP is making too much out of the figures and server stats. The game is still hugely popular and will likely stay that way for some time no matter what happens. EA and BW will make their initial investment back very soon and it's all profit from that point on(I'm basing this on them saying they need 500k subs for 6 months to break even at one point). The game is only a failure in the sense, that it's a disapointment from many MMO veterans point of view and that it won't likely be able to dethrone WoW. It's some people's belief, that they didn't invest hundreds of millions in to the game to finish second to WoW, so if it doesn't keep gaining subs at a steady pace and overtake WoW at some point, it could be viewed as a failure in that sense too.

I think the reason for caring is part schadenfreude and part caring about the trend of MMOs in general. SWTOR isn't anything special outside the single player campaign, it's a huge budget game to intentionally make a clone of the average MMO, give it a some polish and simplify the gameplay and move things more towards single player games in general. I care because that kind of philosophy in making MMOs is horrible IMO and I don't want to see it becoming a trend in the industry.

How popular it will end up being is sort of a mystery at this point though, since unlike most MMOs SWTOR is very leveling focused and had a good amount of initial content. Basicly meaning the initial impression is very positive leading to renewed subscriptions, while the main problem areas with the game only start at the endgame and it will take a long time before the casual mass of players reaches that point let alone gets bored of repeating it. Those problems being, ignoring bugs, that it doesn't offer anything new compared to other MMOs(except hutball) and in many areas it currently does the same content worse than the competition. Since it is star wars and ignoring individual player taste not a horrible game, it will likely retain hundreds of thousands of players even in the worst case scenario, but depending on how bioware develops the game it could even remain as the second most popular MMO in the west after WoW.

Are you ******* kidding me?

Oh wait, must have been all those stupid cinematic videos they put up to hype everything.

One thing worries me about that accounts retained number: I seem to recall reading that even though purchased copies of the game came with 30 days of play time, you had to sign up for a subscription to be able to USE the full 30 days; they wouldn't let you keep playing past a certain point without the subscription already locked in. Did they change their minds because of outcry? Or is there the possibility that they're quoting numbers that are going to drastically drop as people unsubscribe as soon as the free 30 days are over?

^ haters gonna hate, etc etc. Also, last night, US primetime, the US servers were all at heavy and standard load. not a single light population server. A couple were full.

If you think these server numbers = 1.7 million and growing

Obviously it is the reverse.

Also isn't max server size 3000?

That is simply not true at all, I know since I checked and at 2am eastern they were all light in both US and EU.

By the way, "haters gonna hate" is the most common phrase used by Biodrones on the internet, that and WoW had problems at launch 2004

Not saying you are one but

Feel free to check xFire if you want server stats.

They spent 7 years and created 2 studios (while having original Bioware and Mythic also work on it) and a service center on top of the trailers, marketing, George Lucas license which is 35% on everything for life and voice overs etc. They however forgot to make a working and good game.