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Planet V Trade

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Jarr Kaleb
#141 - 2017-05-19 21:19:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarr Kaleb
IChooseYou wrote:
Only thing that I would note is that the broker fees in dodixie have been at 1% for the last six months. I am taking a lot of heat from the hub owners in the area for undercutting them.


IChooseYou wrote:
You should see how many mails I received from people thanking me for offering them this cheaper alternative.
You didn't bothered with Sinq Laison when there were no Planet V Trade hubs. You came to Dodixie only after you saw PVT there. You quickly put your own 0% hub, then pinged Horde to come to bash our 0% hub. After they succeded, you raised taxes to 0.4% and now you are telling us how much you wanted to offer Sinq Laison traders a cheaper alternative...

Roll
dito Elladin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2017-05-20 00:16:44 UTC  |  Edited by: dito Elladin
Once again Transparency is where my trust goes!

Knowing how you can actually charge people differently, so basically you can set % of tax per char and corp in your stations.
Means that most will pay a higher price as soon as they have more control in a certain area and the ones with the bigger interest and CONTROL have always 0% tax in any of their stations, while you and I will be charged more.

Make no mistake here: Those who have 0% will control the market and those who control the Citadels are the Market.
Yes, there is JITA and DODIXIE etc., but those who can buy the cheapest will sooner or later control the PRICE!
You will still pay those owners taxes and they will beat you in price (WIN LOSE), UNLESS: We have a equal playground 0% that is, for ALL!
Twista Cohagen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#143 - 2017-05-22 15:48:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Twista Cohagen
I just have one question to the citadel owners, who is controlling the character "ZWERT".

I know that char is operating from ichooseyous citadel mostly and is in like 95% in control of PLEX, Extractor and injector market.

I have been observing for a long period now and know that that char is 24/7 online. During 24 hours of the day this char isn't inactive for even 5 minutes. It must be a shared character. I just wonder who it belongs to. This char has been in control of said markets for months now. This char is also one if not the main reason PLEX price went up.

Right now this characters keeps most of the time extractor and injector prices on no profit compared to current plex price, but i know it is making huge profits on times when there is absolutely no competition. Further the character is making huge profit on the no profit orders anyway since it bought at least over 6k PLEX before small plex got introduced.

I just wonder if it belongs to someone from here or not.
Jarr Kaleb
#144 - 2017-05-22 16:36:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarr Kaleb
Twista Cohagen wrote:
I just have one question to the citadel owners, who is controlling the character "ZWERT".
ZWERT is a russian speaking trader to whom IChooseYou personally gave 0% at his hub (dude even boasted about it in local). I was talking about him earlier in this my post. He has no relation to Planet V afaik.
Twista Cohagen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#145 - 2017-05-22 17:04:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Twista Cohagen
Jarr Kaleb wrote:
ZWERT is a russian speaking trader to whom IChooseYou personally gave 0% at his hub (dude even boasted about it in local). I was talking about him earlier in this my post. He has no relation to Planet V afaik.


I see very interesting. I wonder why this whole market is just given to ZWERT. The profits involved into this are much higher than monthly profits of a 0.1% citadel in jita would be. The profits i guess he is making are around 20-30 billion a day if not more. I had a glimpse of it a few days ago when zwert wasn't active for around 15 minutes and in those 15 minutes i made 1,5 billion profit buying plex and reselling extractors but then i got bullied away. I cannot compete with a multi trillionaire Smile but i'm sure others could.
Krysenth
Saints Of Havoc
#146 - 2017-05-27 03:22:48 UTC
Russian mob money laundering via plex market control and rmt? I mean... it is eve afterall
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#147 - 2017-05-29 01:07:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Moac Tor
Greetings friends,

It has been a while since the last update, and so a couple of new developments for the Planet V Trade operation.


Remote Trading

CCP has now added the ability for traders to place buy orders remotely in a structure. This means that many traders who would normally operate solely in the NPC market hubs, are now placing their buy orders remotely in offshore market hubs such as our own.

What this means for the Planet V Trade operation is that the location of our physical market hub is less important than it was previously. And so we are modifying our strategy to take advantage of the increased flexibility it offers to make it more difficult for our enemies.

Rather than being fixed in a particular system, we will keep the trade hub active in one of the systems within a one jump radius of the NPC market hub.


Broker Fees

In order to dissuade traders from using the Ichooseyou hub we have been running many of our trade hubs at a flat 0% public rate. Although this has been effective in reducing income for Pandemic Horde, Ichooseyou is still making significant sums of ISK in Perimeter, and has recently expanded his operation against our hubs in Ashab, Hek, and Dodixie.

In light of this, the benefit of running the hubs at a 0% public rate is outweighed by the extra investment we would gain by having a 0.1% public rate. This investment can then be used to replace hubs and expand the operation.

As a result, we will be reverting our rates back to the original fee model, offering the 0.0% supporters rate for life, and a 0.1% public rate.

Additionally, when a replacement hub is launched, to ensure a smooth transition between hubs we will operate a temporary 0.0% public rate for a duration of at least 48 hours of the new hub being active. This is to ensure those who are not on the 0.0% trader list can freely relist their orders at the new market hub.


Market Hubs

As mentioned above, Ichooseyou and Pandemic Horde have now extended their attack into Dodixie and Hek.

The hub in Dodixie was being run by one of our investors, who unfortunately has now decided they cannot sustain the market hub there due to the cost involved. This is an important location, and with not having a Planet V Trade hub there, Ichooseyou has raised his broker fee to 0.4%.

We will look to re-establish the Planet V Trade hub in Dodixie. Further details of this will be posted in this thread when we are able to.

The hub in Hek saw very little in terms of trade volume. With Ichoosyou and Pandemic Horde extending their campaign to Hek, the cost of keeping the hub in Hek running would be significant, and with such little usage, we have decided the ISK could be better invested in sustaining Jita, Amarr, and Dodixie.


Mailing List

Although currently not in use, we do have a ‘Planet V Trade’ mailing list. We would like to start using this as another communication channel, to keep those who are interested updated regularly as to our status.

In future when a market hub is reinforced, alongside updating the MOTD on the ‘Planet V Trade’ chat channel, we will also send a notification through the mailing list with details of where to find the replacement hub.

To receive updates, ensure you are signed up to the mailing list ‘Planet V Trade.


Defence Operations

After receiving many offers of combat help from those who do not wish to see Pandemic Horde succeed with their war on high sec, we are going to open up our defence operations to those who are willing to assist.

For those who are interested, you will need to join our defence corporation ‘Citadel Defenders’. And to avoid Pandemic Horde spys, we are going to have to set a minimum skill limit, and request limited API information to confirm this. I will post the requirements shortly for those who are interested in joining in.

With our combined efforts, we can ensure that this continued attack on free trade in high sec is punishing for our opponents. Please mail me if you are able to offer your assistance.
Amarr King Pin
Doomheim
#148 - 2017-05-29 02:45:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarr King Pin
Planet V promised free trades for ever. Why are you charging the same as Pandemic Horde?

Edit: You say that the promise of free trades was done by Karin Yang when running planet v, but Moac was clearly working together with Karin at the time - and the promise was "we" will keep our rate to 0.0% permanently. How do you explain this? Should Moac step down?
Jarr Kaleb
#149 - 2017-05-29 11:03:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarr Kaleb
Amarr King Pin wrote:
Moac was invited as a FC for Karin's Citadel Defenders corporation. Here is the screenshot from the time when Karin was running Planet V, dumbo. Smile

The screenshot you linked is made after Moac took over Planet V. It just states who today have control over old RMT chat channel and can ban Horde\IChooseYou alts.

By the way, the RMT channel is not used anymore. Planet V has new official chat channel - Planet V Trade.


Amarr King Pin wrote:
How do you explain this?
Moac shouldn't explain anything to yet another newly created Pandemic Horde alt imo.
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#150 - 2017-05-29 12:00:15 UTC
Amarr King Pin wrote:
Planet V promised free trades for ever. Why are you charging the same as Pandemic Horde?......

All the information regarding the Planet V Trade operation is linked in the opening post, and has not been, and will not change.

Your question was posed on the first page of this thread by another alt who is now in Doomheim. I'll relink the answer here.

Moac Tor wrote:
We are actually the successor to the original ♔ Planet V Market Hub which you linked, although we still offer a permanent 0.0% rate for supporters of the ♔ Planet V Trade Hubs as mentioned in the opening post. We want to be transparent regarding our fees, and by charging a minimal 0.01% public broker it will help maintain our operation in the long term without the need to constantly modify our fee unlike our competitors. Most traders will still be trading at the 0.0% rate though.
Krota Merga
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#151 - 2017-05-30 15:29:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Krota Merga
Moac Tor wrote:
Greetings friends,


Remote Trading

CCP has now added the ability for traders to place buy orders remotely in a structure.




Ah? Since when remote buy to stucture is working?
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2017-05-30 20:27:51 UTC
Krota Merga wrote:
Moac Tor wrote:
Greetings friends,


Remote Trading

CCP has now added the ability for traders to place buy orders remotely in a structure.




Ah? Since when remote buy to stucture is working?

A couple of months, don't remember the exact patch.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Sarah Janto
ElitistOps
Snuffed Out
#153 - 2017-06-11 14:12:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah Janto
Moac Tor wrote:



We aim to have a market hub active within one jump range of the major market hubs located in the The Forge, Domain, Sinq Laison, and Metropolis.

We have a significant amount of capital to invest in order to ensure we are able to continuously replace any market hub which is lost, and all assets can be securely transferred via tether to tether citadel docking mechanics. For those that are able to wait for 5 days you are able to use asset safety to instantly transfer your assets to the new market hub.



Moac Tor wrote:


Rather than being fixed in a particular system, we will keep the trade hub active in one of the systems within a one jump radius of the NPC market hub




Just wondering about the new hub in Itamo?

Is that you guys?
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2017-06-12 20:25:40 UTC
Itamo is Planet V ... apparently PH is now patrolling all 1j systems 24/7.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#155 - 2017-08-02 23:38:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Moac Tor
Thank you for the excellent discussion in this thread, and for the support we continue to receive.

It has now been 5 months since we began this thread and officially announced the next stage in the development of the Planet V Trade market hubs. We still continue to resist the extortionists who wish to profit from traders, and we are still here to ensure that there is a free trade option available to all traders of New Eden.

We are now moving this thread to the new forums, the new thread can be found here.