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So you lower the amount of bounties on the npc's... this really isn't that damn hard. They have 5 economists working for them. CCP has some other ploy they are going to bring in later with some real life currency trade to make carrier ratting better, just watch. There is something else behind this.

How do I know? Because if there was 150k people online versus 35k this issue would of came and gone, they are lying about something.

All these nullbear tears about shutting off their free ISK. I love it.

But if it's true that it's the 1% of the 1% according to CCP Quant, then how can this be a threat to the economy, which is CCP Larrikin's contention in the OP of this thread?

Even taking the PCU from each day around 40,000.

1% of 1% is 4 people online at any moment in time.

Something in the information CCP is feeding us is not right. Quant's post is the most likely one that is a generalization (even though he claimed it as a literal statement), in which case, CCP are pissing off way more than 1% of 1%.

Screw CCP for f'ing up PVP. Find a different solution if there is a problem. Literally, if 4 people online threaten the EVE economy, then fighter DPS isn't the problem. There's far deeper problems then that.

holy crap are you kidding me... 15% more likely NPC's will shoot fighters than current... they already get shot into oblivion and you want them to die even more... well done.

I said this before about the economy thing and I'll say it again here and hope... HOPE... CCP will see this and think for more than half a second before dismissing it.
The problem lately is not the isk making or the fighter damage... the problem is the current meta.
Back when rogue drones still dropped minerals, ships were fairly inexpensive and lots of larger ship combat was plentiful (battleship / battlecruiser / hac / faction) But after the rogue drones were changed to bounties and no drop, all the power was put into the miners/industrialists, and prices went up, nearly doubling. So everyone went to cheaper ships... then came the T1 cruiser 'balance' which made the T1 cruiser a mere fraction of the cost of T2 and just as good, so the way of the T2 cruiser faded out quickly for cost effiency. Then interceptors got a nice buff... then came the tech 3 destroyer, even cheaper faster and more fun to play, more efficient than an assault frig for similar cost with lots more options. You see where this is going... changes pushed people away from spending isk. Now all you see is Machariel fleets, caracal fleets, t3d fleets, or ceptor fleets. There's such a wide array of ships in eve, but the changes to everything forced people away from the spending to go with inexpensive way to play.
So all that isk people are making isn't going anywhere because they have no reason to spend it. You make 30 million isk roughly on a haven, it's 200mil for an Ishtar, you need at least 7 havens to buy and fit this ship... or 1 or 2 havens can buy you a few vexors and get just as much fun out of it more frequently for a fraction of the spend. So hard core ratters (I will use myself for instance) who need more isk, for like plexes or replacing fighters or command ships for larger fleets, need more isk, but in the mean time until it's time to fleet up, doing ratting between work and sleep, sleep and work... that isk just builds up, there's nothing to spend it on. Why would you spend hundreds of millions when someone with 10 milion ship can kill you just as easily. Honestly look at *ALL* the spending problems before just focusing on "oh too much isk must punish them for having nothing else to do".
As for isk faucet... I hear incursions are just as good, or better, than null ratting... just sayin'

Let's remember who said this so this person never gets a vote again.

CCP Quant says the system is being abused you 1% of the 1% for RMT purposes

So you nerf into oblivion carriers and supercarriers for the entire playerbase???????????????

So to solve a problem with a small number of people you smash the rest of us?????????????????


If CCP Quant was trying to help - he has made CCP devs look even more stupid - as a justification for the change he has plumbed the depths of idiocy

FIX THE RMT ISSUE NOT SHAFT THE REST OF US!!!!!!!!!!


Lazy lazy decision

Yes, but CCP will not listen to someone with logical arguments.

CCP Do you realize that by making that simple cut you make caldari and amarr carrier/supers a pure hobby horse crap!

Well, we shall see what PVP gangs will catch and kill when no players want to fly those things anymore. Smart enough players will find ways to make money again - Incursions, 10/10 sites, farming "Enemy around", etc.

Nerfing the income will directly nerf the pvp too. I used to make 200 mil per 1 hour. And then just spend all the money on pvp ships and go fight. Now... I will have to do same nett income for two hours (cause fighters will die more), and probably I will get bored or just my free time after work will end and I will turn off my PC.

Second option is if I loose the carrier one day, just to stay with the basic account and fly with caracals. Anyway, CCP should work a way more about creating content in order to revive paying with real money.

I mean more interesting sites - higher diversity , more pve activities, pvp tournaments (for newbies, with restrictions to ship classes for example), more intelligent AI in sites, better loot system (atm dreadnought drops total **** for regular pve player - it can drop various pvp blueprints, proper pvp modules and etc.).

Weekly challenges - like destroy 10 enemy (pvp) ships and you will get 100 000 skill points free... etc, destroy 15 MTU, destroy mobile depots, there might be rewards for flying different classes of ships - like having all frigs from all pirate factions gives you "something"...

Free isk? yeah because a 22b isk super carrier minimum is free isk, shove it up your ass.