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Alphas and F2P Have Failed

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Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#681 - 2017-04-11 05:58:50 UTC
Might be time to put this thread out of it's misery.
Rain6637
NulzSec
#682 - 2017-04-11 06:00:21 UTC
Rain6637
NulzSec
#683 - 2017-04-11 06:01:08 UTC
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Shadow Cartel
#684 - 2017-04-11 07:50:21 UTC
No.

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Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#685 - 2017-04-11 09:22:25 UTC
It needs to close, far better threads that stayed on topic have been locked sooner, For Justice!AttentionAttention and the respect for those locked to soon.......you guys really need a beer or a wine emoji.
Salvos Rhoska
#686 - 2017-04-11 09:38:57 UTC
Just let it roll, or stop posting in it to bump it.
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#687 - 2017-04-11 20:28:18 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Just let it roll, or stop posting in it to bump it.


You sound very important, akin to someone who sits cross legged in the wilderness surrounded by a pygmy tribe.
Thanks for the input but I'll pass and bump again to it's possible demise.
Carnivorous Swarm
Doomheim
#688 - 2017-04-19 15:53:43 UTC
Jax Bederen wrote:

You sound very important, akin to someone who sits cross legged in the wilderness surrounded by a pygmy tribe.


Just sayin', it's pretty hard to log into the forums from places where there's pygmy tribes.

You should give them credit where credit's due.
Keno Skir
#689 - 2017-04-19 17:30:01 UTC
Carnivorous Swarm wrote:
Jax Bederen wrote:

You sound very important, akin to someone who sits cross legged in the wilderness surrounded by a pygmy tribe.


Just sayin', it's pretty hard to log into the forums from places where there's pygmy tribes.

You should give them credit where credit's due.


U reckon they have to stack on top of each other to get reception at the top? Bet there's no 4G in the rain forest.
Kixx
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#690 - 2017-04-19 21:58:32 UTC
I cant help it this thread made me laugh at so many different levels.

First people from Null saying Hi-sec is a some sort of "problem" because Null is becoming a ghost town while the majority of players are clearly in Hi-sec and do not wish to leave.
Just to put this in perspective its like saying hey my car is broken, lets take parts from the brakes to fix it, sure it might work, until you really need to stop one day.

EvE has many problems, many of them self made, like ti-di which helps encourage the people to just stall the fight until help arrives by just piling on into the system. Sure I understand there is some worldwide problem with consistent latency but to make an exploitable tactic that every large alliance will use instead sure didn't help the game.
The problem is this seems to be a reoccurring theme when you start to analyze the Null sec area in particular, otherwise you would be able to say wormhole space is dying also, which it isn't, but share most of the same meta as Null.

EvEs problem IS NULL, not lo sec and not hi sec and not wormhole space. You need to address where the largest loss of players is happening and look deeper there, not cannibalize the rest of the game because those players are crying. Hell I am pretty sure I heard CCP Guard say and I quote "Hi sec players make a majority of EvE". You don't destroy what is working to appease a group that clearly isn't working.

Between the ti di which clearly works on the side of big alliances and the oversized allowance for players per alliance, you have a perfect mixture of failure. Then add in the large amount of time it takes to be successful in null and every hill you put in the players way becomes a mountain.

You cant look at wormhole space thriving and Null sec dying and say that's expected. Obviously you have a null sec problem and the longer you ignore it the worse its going to be for everyone overall.

Ignore away but you have 3 months until Albion releases, and if you cant already see a sizable chunk of pvprs moving to there because "its not a space game", then you deserve the continued fate of where this train is obviously going.

Or to put it into perspective, its like going to a system because you saw a ton of ships killed in the last hour, then finding out they were all rookie ships and you wish you just hadn't even bothered to play that day.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#691 - 2017-04-19 22:04:03 UTC
Ti-di isn't just about latency - with the amount of data required when fights get that big and server IO and other hardware/software performance bottlenecks it is pretty much required for reliable, albeit delayed, gameplay - the alternative is either the old crashing and unreliability or waiting for another couple of generations of backend hardware/software progress.
Teckos Pech
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#692 - 2017-04-19 22:12:55 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Ti-di isn't just about latency - with the amount of data required when fights get that big and server IO and other hardware/software performance bottlenecks it is pretty much required for reliable, albeit delayed, gameplay - the alternative is either the old crashing and unreliability or waiting for another couple of generations of backend hardware/software progress.


Yup. You can have ti-di where stuff works...but slowly, or you can have a black screen.

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Retribution.
#693 - 2017-04-20 11:00:09 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Ti-di isn't just about latency - with the amount of data required when fights get that big and server IO and other hardware/software performance bottlenecks it is pretty much required for reliable, albeit delayed, gameplay - the alternative is either the old crashing and unreliability or waiting for another couple of generations of backend hardware/software progress.


Yup. You can have ti-di where stuff works...but slowly, or you can have a black screen.



oh god another with his head in the sand. tidi is terrible. its a made up name for lag. whats the difference between black screen and a screen where nothing is moving. whats great about seeing everything in super slow mo and not even knowing if your already dead 20 mins ago whilst youre still f1 bashing. its more frustrating at least with a black screen youre put out of your misery quicker than lasting the whole painful death. which in fact you didnt and died ages ago yet you wouldnt know...

tidi was an excuse to stop people constantly bashing ccp about lag. you suckers fell for it
tidi is worse now even with TQ III
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#694 - 2017-04-20 11:30:43 UTC
Jax Bederen wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Just let it roll, or stop posting in it to bump it.


You sound very important, akin to someone who sits cross legged in the wilderness surrounded by a pygmy tribe.



That made my day! Lol

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