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Update on Shadow of the Serpent Event

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#1 - 2016-07-06 18:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Greeting Spacefriends,

I’m here to update you on the Scope Network’s Shadow of the Serpent event and how it’s going so far.
First I would like to mention that we really appreciate all the feedback we have received surrounding the event. We really value the time you take to talk about the events and we are listening and will be using the feedback to influence the changes we would like to make for the next event.

We noticed a recurring critique was the lack of loot in the sites. While there are not many changes we can make to this event as a lot of you have already earned the containers (it would be unfair on those who have already earned a containers to now change the contents), we have been able to make a small adjustment by adding some loot to the battlecruiser NPCs that visit all the event sites. We do hope it shows that we are paying attention to your concerns and will be taking bigger steps to resolve them for next time, as our metrics clearly show the demand for events like these.

I would also like to congratulate Kirev, who on July 2nd became the first capsuleer to own a Vehement BPC by unlocking the gold container via Scope Network Challenges. As more of you earn the gold container, don’t forget you can still continue to earn points. Five single-run Vendetta BPCs and five single-run Vanquisher BPCs will be available through the Shadow of the Serpent event. The top 5 highest scoring characters during the event will receive Vanquisher BPCs and characters placing 6-10 will receive Vendetta BPCs. The Scope Network will count the points on August 9th and announce the winners, but as of today the top 10 capsuleers with the most points are, in order:

BUISNESSWOMAN
Kamamdzava Tekerava
Alen Asques
DaOpa
Muravey Virpio
Zeraph Dregamon
T4T4TOS
DimS KosS
Phytor
Breaking Fast

You have until August 9th to earn your place in the top 10 capsuleers list!

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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#2 - 2016-07-06 18:23:07 UTC
Serpentis lives matter

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Serenol Marwysgar
Dot.Inc
#3 - 2016-07-06 18:23:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Serenol Marwysgar
I've been disappointed that of the couple dozen missions I've completed, I've not gotten any mining missions since the event first went live. The Serpentis Shipyard one seems to be on infinite loop.

Also be nice if missions didn't expire once started. Hate to lose progress because RL keeps me from logging in. Or alternatively, I also had the thought that a progressive system might work better for those with intermittent play and won't penalize someone who grinds missions out - progressive rewards. If a mission is clear 5 Serp Shipyards for 500 points, each site is 100 points. If I complete 3/5, it'd be nice to get 300 when the new mission resets. If I'm lucky I get an hour or two to play and it's not a lot of time for the reward thresholds.
StarLite
Lazor Destruction Technologies inc.
#4 - 2016-07-06 18:28:53 UTC
What kind of loot are we talking about for the BC NPC's?
Is it the standard Serpentis BC loot table or specific event rewards?
Grarr Dexx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2016-07-06 18:49:48 UTC
I killed a whole site's worth of BCs and didn't see a single one drop loot.
Sarmatiko
#6 - 2016-07-06 19:06:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
CCP Affinity, can you comment on unusually high rates for Drifter related challenges assignment?
For the past week since the beginning of this event I got 2 Drifter events simultaneously (Kill 10 and 50 Drifters) and this happened twice. It's not just me - you probably already seen those rant Reddit threads with 3 Drifter challenges.

Any quick fixes incoming (at least make all Drifter events 24h) or we have to do something else instead of participating in the event?

Also there should be option to forcefully cancel at least one challenge per day (hint: you can even charge ISK\AUR for additional cancellations)
DaOpa
Static Corp
#7 - 2016-07-06 20:18:12 UTC
Oh cool, I made it on the list woot!

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#8 - 2016-07-06 20:31:05 UTC
Removed an off topic post.

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Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#9 - 2016-07-06 20:41:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk
autism is off topic in a thread about grinding? WTF
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#10 - 2016-07-06 21:50:51 UTC
Very much appreciated.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs

Blanche Philbert
BlackheartGamers
Wormlife
#11 - 2016-07-06 23:24:28 UTC
Serenol Marwysgar wrote:
I've been disappointed that of the couple dozen missions I've completed, I've not gotten any mining missions since the event first went live. The Serpentis Shipyard one seems to be on infinite loop.

Also be nice if missions didn't expire once started. Hate to lose progress because RL keeps me from logging in. Or alternatively, I also had the thought that a progressive system might work better for those with intermittent play and won't penalize someone who grinds missions out - progressive rewards. If a mission is clear 5 Serp Shipyards for 500 points, each site is 100 points. If I complete 3/5, it'd be nice to get 300 when the new mission resets. If I'm lucky I get an hour or two to play and it's not a lot of time for the reward thresholds.


I agree with you you on that score.... Tried to do few when I could get time but didn't make any points..... So gave up
I sort of did a few more but it was for the bounty only.... I hope they can change that for next time
Circumstantial Evidence
#12 - 2016-07-06 23:31:18 UTC
Awesome news, an answer to my plea. Thanks for adding to the event while it's in progress, now I'll check it out. Begin treasure hunt!
nezroy
Nice Clan
#13 - 2016-07-07 08:41:53 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
CCP Affinity, can you comment on unusually high rates for Drifter related challenges assignment?


What's to comment? It's not unusual in the slightest. People do the challenges they can do until they hit a Drifter one. Then they leave it, and continue to do the other challenges they can do, until they hit another Drifter one. Rinse repeat until all you have is shipyards.

I mean, it's annoying sure, and the suggestion to let folks forcibly cancel a challenge once every 24hr or something is certainly a useful idea.

But there's nothing spooky going on here and nothing statistically off about the # of Drifter challenges received, it's just the only one that bottlenecks you so of course you are eventually stuck with all of them clogging your queue.
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#14 - 2016-07-07 08:48:25 UTC
StarLite wrote:
What kind of loot are we talking about for the BC NPC's?
Is it the standard Serpentis BC loot table or specific event rewards?


This will be standard NPC loot, not event specific this time around. Definitely something we will action for next event!

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#15 - 2016-07-07 08:48:59 UTC
Grarr Dexx wrote:
I killed a whole site's worth of BCs and didn't see a single one drop loot.


The change will ship today, so after downtime you should start to see loot

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#16 - 2016-07-07 08:51:54 UTC
Serenol Marwysgar wrote:
I've been disappointed that of the couple dozen missions I've completed, I've not gotten any mining missions since the event first went live. The Serpentis Shipyard one seems to be on infinite loop.

Also be nice if missions didn't expire once started. Hate to lose progress because RL keeps me from logging in. Or alternatively, I also had the thought that a progressive system might work better for those with intermittent play and won't penalize someone who grinds missions out - progressive rewards. If a mission is clear 5 Serp Shipyards for 500 points, each site is 100 points. If I complete 3/5, it'd be nice to get 300 when the new mission resets. If I'm lucky I get an hour or two to play and it's not a lot of time for the reward thresholds.


We decided to have the Serpentis shipyard one always available as a challenge so you could always guarantee points from that site. I would love to hear your feedback on that.

I agree on the expiry, ideally we would have a way to remove a certain number of challenges per day that you did not want to participate in and the others would remain. This time around, we decided to have the 3 day expiry so no one would be left in a state where they had only challenges they didn't wish to complete or had tried and were unable to do. You're right, we definitely need to reconsider the multiple sites per reward.

Thank you for your feedback, it's much appreciated.

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#17 - 2016-07-07 08:52:21 UTC
DaOpa wrote:
Oh cool, I made it on the list woot!




Congrats!! :)

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#18 - 2016-07-07 08:54:46 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
CCP Affinity, can you comment on unusually high rates for Drifter related challenges assignment?
For the past week since the beginning of this event I got 2 Drifter events simultaneously (Kill 10 and 50 Drifters) and this happened twice. It's not just me - you probably already seen those rant Reddit threads with 3 Drifter challenges.

Any quick fixes incoming (at least make all Drifter events 24h) or we have to do something else instead of participating in the event?

Also there should be option to forcefully cancel at least one challenge per day (hint: you can even charge ISK\AUR for additional cancellations)


I agree, we should have provided an option to cancel challenges you do not wish to complete. The challenge allocation is entirely random, although I can understand how it would feel very frustrating to end up in a position where you have 3 challenges you do not wish to complete and your only option is to do them anyway or wait out the timer. Unfortunately, for this event, there will be no quick fix for this. However, I am currently working on a redesign and this is one of the big issues I will be addressing for the next event.

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Sarmatiko
#19 - 2016-07-07 10:38:56 UTC
CCP Affinity wrote:
I agree, we should have provided an option to cancel challenges you do not wish to complete. The challenge allocation is entirely random, although I can understand how it would feel very frustrating to end up in a position where you have 3 challenges you do not wish to complete and your only option is to do them anyway or wait out the timer. Unfortunately, for this event, there will be no quick fix for this. However, I am currently working on a redesign and this is one of the big issues I will be addressing for the next event.

Thank you for answer. Sadly you completely avoided Drifter question. Sad

Maybe you could give some practical advices about Drifter killing, especially for EVE newbros?
How one could kill Drifter solo, let's say in T1 cruiser/BC (something PVE designer would expect new player will use in this event)? Or it was designed specifically as suicide bait for unexperienced players?
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#20 - 2016-07-07 10:46:33 UTC
so if you kill a drifter in this event does that mean they will follow you around like the ai has done? do these events also affect standings whith the pirates?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

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