EVE General Discussion

Concerning WoD, there's been 2 games based on it already, and Paradox certainly is gong to develop *something* with that IP.

World Of Darkness is one of the best selling horror RPG franchises ever. It predated the sparkling vampires and certainly has outlived them. Failing to buid a MMORPG on WoD is like failing to make a RTS out of a Warhammer license.

As for the Atlanta team, here is something worth noting. As the Reykjavik team begrudgingly developed one single CQ in over a year ("we were hired to make spaceships, not rooms") the Atlanta office finished 3 CQs in 6 months... in detriment of WoD.

Those Reykjavik artists are the same who now have spent over a year texturizing structures with thousands of square kilometers of surface so they become the most gloriously useless 3D screensaver ever. Thousands of square kilometers of nothing to interact with and nothing to do when you're "inside" of it, but to look at it from a thousand kilometers away... sitting and idling... forever.

This, from the company who figured that it was worth spending God knows how many man hours to connect a PC game to a console game via two different propietary networks so the PC player could sit doing nothing but wait to press F1 each 10 minutes...

CCP haves an habit of climbing mountains because there's a Vision on them; resolving technological challenges just because they're challenging... "game" and "fun" be damned.

So you are saying ccp should have never made eve then?

No they are saying that instead of abandoning their five star phenomenon they should have nurtured it carefully and put money right back into it.

If they had nurtured Eve right from the beginning, no one could touch them, they'd have as much content as World of Warcraft. You'd be crazy to try to remake WoW, but Eve has like 12 quests and a very basic system. This offers WoW an unexpected advantage against its competitors in the Fantasy genre and Eve just hasn't been cared for very well, making it vulnerable to competition such as Elite and Star Citizen.

The world is changing really quickly. This is particularly true in computer game industry. A game developer is guaranteed to die if it stops being creative and taking risk.

If CCP did not take risk to start the development of a spaceship game 13 years ago, EVE does not exist today. It's nothing wrong to try new directions as long as they learn from their mistakes.

The difference between school and life? In school, you're taught a lesson and then given a test. In life, you're given a test that teaches you a lesson.

You know that CCP did spend a whole bunch of money on WiS, and most of it was thrown on a fire too?

I concur.

EVE Online should be their only focus.

This whole thread--and all the other ones like it--stink like a garbage pile of survivorship bias.

Everybody is crawling around up in here pretending they know what makes a good or popular or profitable video game, and we're all sitting around here pointing at the different bullet holes in the plane and yelling at each other, "LOOK! THERE'S THE PROBLEM! CAN'T YOU SEE THE HOLES IN THE PLANE? WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU?"

Yeah, guess what? The holes in a plane that made it back to the landing strip don't matter. It's the stuff that didn't get hit that counts.

In my opinion, EvE has had a guiding vision throughout its existence, and that vision has not been recently diminished.

The vision is that it should always be dangerous to undock. People are free to be bad if they choose.

That's what keeps me coming back, time after time.

When CCP does things to make things safer, I tend to object. When they do things that make it more dangerous, I tend to applaud. When CPP changes things that don't affect safety in either direction, I don't care.

FozzieSOV? Don't care.
Skill Points? Don't care/sort of like it because more people with more SP = more danger (theoretically)
Jump Fatigue? Don't care.
WiS? Don't care unless it means people can stab me while I try to pick up hookers.
AUR/NEX Store/monocles/$1,000 jeans? Don't care. Except that I love delicious forum tears.
Ridiculously overpowered T3Ds? Bring it. More danger is better.
Other games that CCP is working on? Seriously do not care. Other games didn't break EvE. Other games will never break EvE. Unbelievable non-issue.

The only thing that will break EvE is this:

When CCP changes mechanics to make things safer.

That's the core part of the game that, in my opinion, keeps this whole thing going. But CCP doesn't do that very often.

There's a lot of blarghle-blarg about CCP losing its way because they are experimenting with some different things. I disagree. I think CCP is very much keeping its path very well, while it is trying some things out that specifically do not interfere or disrupt the game's core appeal.

I know people will disagree, but I think that most of the things that people gripe about are things that are ancillary to the core concept. It's just that some of them are inconvenient or personally dissatisfying for some players. But that doesn't make them a compromise of the game's core values.

This thread is particularly absurd and misinformed. But the ideas I'm suggesting are applicable to many recent GD threads.

So what we've learned is that the kind of special snowflake who thinks it's possible for CCP to "screw him" by investing in other projects also feels he should not have to bear any criticism for this entitled whinging.

Go figure.

If the had focus on one game instead making 3 games (darkness nonsense) then we had more than just eve in eve. We had a better eve now. And allot better things to do. Now the try to (catch up strategist to keep the foes calm) . Focus on eve the say and what do we get a remap of UI. Add some 10 ships done. finish, Now all the money back to other games the have..... Yah thanks. Off course we are **** off about it.

Now the add the injectors for the quick cash the can make. To budget there other games. And hope some of them get succes.

Not sure about that.


What I do know is that when WoD was still being worked on, there were a lot of EVE players moaning about EVE not getting much attention and blaming WoD as well as Dust514.




But then what's the point in worrying about what might have been. Should be looking forward not back.