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In what sense are you "living with those choices" anyhow? It's not like real life, where your life span is finite, you learn better when you are younger, and society tends to make it difficult to switch careers late in life.

Right now, training takes the same time no matter what else your trained for however long earlier. The only "consequence" you suffer is that if your goals change then compared to a hypothetical you who had your new goals from the start your character will be older when your reach them. Basically, if you compare your training to the the ideal "from newbie to X" skill plan, then your detour to other things has "cost you time". But that's just in your mind.

It would be different if for example there was a hard cap on SP, so that you could train only say 50M SP and no more. Or if training speed slowed down significantly as you acquired more SP. Then there would be real consequences of "wasted skill training". As it is, there are basically none.

What skill point injection does is to allow players who have either ISK or unwanted SP (and AUR) to train into new skills more rapidly. That's all.

If you think that's "evil", then I would suggest that you rip out all those implants that make you train faster. I bet you paid for those with ISK... This is simply another method of paying ISK to get skills faster. And unlike implants, which definitely increase the total SP growth in the game, these injectors may decrease it (though that depends on how much of the SP comes from active players extracting unwanted SPs, and how much from SP farming alts).

I was wondering if it will kill off the character bazaar because why would you ever sell a whole character created by dual training an alt when you could break it up for greater profit also will characters trained for a specific role still be worth more that any old meat Popsicle with the same number of skill points

Having younger players given the option to get into ships faster is good for retention, which in turn helps all of us as more players remain engaged with the game, and there is nothing worng with CCP making money of such option to continue make our game better.

your turn now, tell me why you think it is not good for everyone?

Having younger players given the option to get into ships faster is good for retention, which in turn helps all of us as more players remain engaged with the game, and there is nothing worng with CCP making money of such option to continue make our game better.

your turn now, tell me why you think it is not good for everyone?

Okay, I've read enough salt-encrusted posts by entitled whiners.

This is my main. There are many like it. But this one is mine. I would never consider selling it. But I would consider selling off some misplaced SP because I had no one to tell me what was good to train or even for what learning skills were used back in 2009. I have completely wasted SP in mining and industry on this toon. I want to sell them.

I really don't care what my SP total is, other than as some sort of vague e-peen wagging. Sure it feels good to look at it and occasionally take it out and blow my load all over someone. But it is not what makes Soldarius Soldarius. It is, like everything else on the character sheet, a part of the character. Even if I do not choose to use any of the various character modification options that CCP has given us, I am glad to know they are there. So if I want to modify my clothes, my portrait, my ships, or soon my SP allocations, I can.

If there is one thing I have learned about Eve, it is that your irl wallet size is not directly proportional to your skill in game. TMC, EN24, and others are packed full of articles showcasing potatoes that think eve is p2w. They pull out dad's credit card and plex their way to that all purple marauder and think they are invincible.

I don't care how many SP you have or how many purples you have. If you don't know how to play the game and whip out your wallet on day 1, you will still get #HAZED mercilessly until you either HTFU or gb2wow.

On the other hand, if this gives a noob some incentive to farm up for a bit and accelerate himself into some of those low-SP doctrine ships like Svipuls, Caracals, T1 logi, or a Celestis for FU fleet, I'm okay with that. I don't doubt for a minute the most wealthy entities will throw injectors onto the market at cost in their local trade hub. Or maybe even give them away as an incentive to join. Jita injectors will get manipulated. New stuff always does.

As far as SP-farming, if it is profitable, I will do it. For me, that would be if I can make enough to pay for the extractors for one month of training + 1 PLEX per account. I might even pay PLEX to do multi-character training if there is enough profit in it. My goal would be to net 1 PLEX per month per character.

One of the few posts that made any sense or showed any redeeming qualities was the suggestion of having SP packs that focus on specific skills. I think that's a capital idea.

Then CCP shoyuld just gift new players X amount of skill points.

This is my main and I'm mostly playing solo explorer in high sec and wormholes at the moment. That's not very Goon-ish, I would guess. (Though admittedly the only things I know about Goons is what I read in reddit, which is probably not an unbiased source...)

I find it somewhat strange that people assume one must be this or that to like the idea of skill injections.