Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The scout you are looking for is an interceptor.

Sure, I can get an interceptor alt and double my travel time to everywhere. That sounds fun.

Plus, the whole point was to balance the camps. Camp your ass off, but catch me after I'm in-system instead of the lazy, lame "let's put 10 guys on this gate and explode 20 frigates to stave off the boredom of waiting for that one solo T3 cruiser."

I don't support this idea at all. if one is in a small ship and that ship is fit right, it's very easy to survive. Dozens of gate camps have failed to kill my travel fit interceptor (yes, with all those intertia stabs it is basically abusing the 'server tick' time, but it works)

It's also why I always fit a tech2 cloak when traveling low or null without a scout. If you wait a few seconds after jumping (to clear that jump timer, then click jump on the gate you just came through, then MWD and Cloak, it's mechanically impossible for anyone (even a 'so called insta locker') to lock you up and even if they do, if you fit right (buffer tank your ship, even an inty) and use the right tactics (pre-heat mwd before activating), you get out fine.

There is even the old MWD/Cloak trick to get off a camped gate, but the margin of error is larger there of course.

Bottom line, there is no need for new game mechanics. You just need to get better at using the ones that exist, and when you do you can laugh your backsides off at campers.

So if other players spend time in an unfun way to kill you, would it balance out? Because that's what gatecamps are.

This thread says otherwise. Being a carebear is a mindset, not where you live. There are carebears in all areas of EvE.


You understand that one of the Ms in MMO stands for multiplayer, right? If you want to solo PvE in relative safety, stay in highsec. Otherwise, it is best to have friends in the game who are willing to help, be they corp/alliance mates or alts.


Welcome to EvE. As one of the CCP bigwigs once said, "EvE is not supposed to look like a cold, harsh, cruel world. It is supposed to be a cold, harsh, cruel world."

Scouts are a thing.
Using the map to see kill activity of the route you're travelling is a thing.
Insta-warping interceptors are a thing.

Get yourself a reputation as a hot dropper. Fly around in nano, warp speed mallers. Never see another camp again, ever.

Ed: I do concede the first bit is the work. The rewards though....oh man...hell you could take a in iteron anywhere and no-one will touch you.

I'm at a loss. The title says "A month into eve" and the description says "I've spent a bunch of time in HS, low sex, nul sex and wh"

They can't both be true.


If a month is enough time to spend a bunch of time in not one, but all areas of space - this is the wrong game for you.

Having an easy time solo in dangerous parts of space (LS/NS/WHs) shouldn't be a thing. This is a multiplayer game. Roam in gangs.

It's common sense that a 10 person gang has an advantage over a solo player.

TBH, I don't really like gatecamps, myself. Different reasons, though. I don't find them problematic, I just think they're a boring chore that appeals only to the most shiftless and risk-averse of players.

That said, your proposed solutions are all far worse than the problem they're intended to cure, and, being only a month into the game, you definitely lack the requisite experience with the game to understand the unintended consequences of your suggestions.

For instance:



So everyone gets a free minute of penalty-free cloaked positioning every time they jump?

OP as ****.

There's a reason cloaks carry heavy penalties when they're not fit to specialized ships.



I don't get what you're trying to fix, here. This would result in FAR deadlier camps (but on the opposite side of the gate), as 3 seconds is more than enough for lock and activate, and then the person warping in has absolutely no recourse at all. When it's the warp-away side that's being camped, there are things you can do if you're prepared. Cloaky-MWD. Maybe burn away. Maybe burn back to the gate, even.

And travel gets just plain slower, too? Gross.



Effortless very long range warpins are too tactically powerful, especially given that it sounds like the max targeting range will be increasing beyond 250km with the capital ship rewrite.

Is it really that hard to make perch bookmarks? First of all, you don't even need them in every system - only ones that don't have a celestial in D-scan range of the gate. I tend to just make them as I go with no additional time required. You don't need to be on grid, you just have to be close enough to scan. If I'm in null and a system is empty, if it makes sense WRT the distances involved, when I warp away from the gate I ctrl+b as soon as I'm off grid and, as I close on the destination gate, I do it again. Next time I come through, if the system is populated, I have a safe spot to scan the gate from. Takes no additional time at all.

We're in total agreement there. Honestly, I don't even see how it's fun for the campers. I have respect for the guys who pop into my system and drop combat probes. They're actually working for a kill. They also tend to happily salute and move on if you say you spotted them. :-)



Totally valid. The moral of the story is it's a dumb mechanic that results in suck gameplay. I was just trying to suggest *something* that was intended to have balance. Take away X, grant Y in return.

The problem could also be solved by discouraging the killing of small, individual, lower-tier ships. Make their cargo 100% vaporize if they were targeted by multiple ships, buff gate gun damage for suspects who attacked a weak ship with a fleet, etc.

Those no doubt have unintended consequences as stated, but the point is: There are ways to fix a bad mechanic. "Just get gud" isn't one of them.



The thing about this is that bookmarks are easy to make.. They're just time consuming. This wouldn't be granting anyone an ability they don't already have, it'd just be saving time I could spend having actual fun.