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Parallax - Issues

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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#41 - 2015-11-03 15:11:08 UTC
Xeator wrote:
If I have D-scan, probe scanner and people & places tabs open, all stacked into the same window the game no longer even keeps them properly in order. It will always set the probe scanner as the last tab, even after I move them around again.

And on session change, like after gate jump it will always select the probe scanner as active.

Why does the order not remain after session changes? Why does it always select the probe scanner? It should be keeping the last selection active.


That seems like an issue we may have introduced. If you have the time, please do file a bug report on it, preferably from inside the client (F12)

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#42 - 2015-11-03 15:12:50 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Goliath
Malice Redeemer wrote:
Right off, Let us disable the useless background stars in the new star and probe maps, let us change the position of the new star and probe maps controls when it is in full screen mode.


EDIT I´ve worked it out - would you prefer that the map controls become "free move" and their own "window" when the Solar System Map is in fullscreen?

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#43 - 2015-11-03 15:15:05 UTC
Lei Volund wrote:
my other post was locked, so posting my issues here

D-scan gets in the way of the probe scanning window, not only is it a big red blob, same as sigs, its also hard to click through at certain angles, its just too 'visualy confusing'

move box for scan probes doesnt come by default, have found that pressing shift makes it appear

when i have the move box up, i see it turn red when hovering over it, and it still selcts a close by moon or planet or whatever else is nearby

sigs are hard(ish) to spot, just a little icon floating around, nothing that makes them stand out (like they had a circle around them, that was good)

Normal map is a broken mess, white screen, flickers when moving and shows nothing.

i love the fact that you are trying to make everything pretty, andd i love the game etc, however, please can you realise that these screens are 'informational', everything needs to stand out at a glance, what we have is blobs on blobs with colors and planets and evrything is selectable and gets in the way of everything else.

really feel it needs stripping back to its core, it feels like 10 people had cool ideas and made them in a seperate room, then crashed them all together


We have an active defect to put in a toggle for the directional scanner visual display, but for now you can disable it by closing d-scan when you're probing.

Move box not coming up is a known issue, not reproducible for 100% of cases, but will get fixed very soon.

Beta map is currently non-functional when docked in station. The old map works fine though, and the beta map works if you are undocked. Another known issue, sorry, and one that will be fixed.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

Elwha Lynx
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#44 - 2015-11-03 15:25:22 UTC
Probe scanner comments.

Like the filtering tab.


New probe scanner window doesn't sort or indicate distance correctly. For example, If I warp into a combat anom, resort by distance, it still shows me many AU (pre-warp position) from the anom.


Anom green underlining is hard on the eyes and mask the now dim green background. The previous brighter green background was much clearer than the new one.
Myleele Pownee
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2015-11-03 15:30:15 UTC

1) I have the same "failing to Jump" issue as a previous poster... Used the Jump command on a gate in the overview, warped tot he gate but failed to jump. Occurs about 20% of the time. I am being careful not to mis-click.

2) Training Queue: VERY slow generally. Can take up to 10 seconds to load. UI elements often draw slowly. Minimizing and expanding a skill category can take about 5 seconds. Same goes for the categories in the Character Sheet (even slower). Took closing and re-opening to update times after plugging in an implant.
Longdrinks
Zero Fun Allowed
#46 - 2015-11-03 15:30:39 UTC
everytime i press analyze on the probe window it scrolls up to the top of the list of scan results. Kind of annoying in a system with lots of sigs like thera were i have to scroll down each time and select the sig i want again to only show that red dot on the map.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#47 - 2015-11-03 15:31:33 UTC
Elwha Lynx wrote:
Probe scanner comments.

Like the filtering tab.


New probe scanner window doesn't sort or indicate distance correctly. For example, If I warp into a combat anom, resort by distance, it still shows me many AU (pre-warp position) from the anom.


Anom green underlining is hard on the eyes and mask the now dim green background. The previous brighter green background was much clearer than the new one.


The probe scanner window distance updates on scan, not like the overview with your current position.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

Lei Volund
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2015-11-03 15:33:19 UTC
Thank you for your time CCP Goliath, i will try and get used to the old old interface, shame really because the old new one was so close to being right
Soltys
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2015-11-03 15:34:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Soltys
The issues are roughly the same I posted in that other thread in WH forum:


  • ALT probe repositioning (without range changing) has been moved to CTRL, and ALT took the reposition+rerange role (previously we had to grab spheres' borders). Why not just leave original function at ALT (that everyone is used to) and use CTRL for reposition+rerange ?
  • ALT/CTRL/SHIFT are treated as system wide shortcuts. Literally if EvE is in background but still visible (windowed mode, fixed windowed on another monitor), probe+dscan map does react visually (cones, arrows) to those keys regardless of what application has focus. Same obviously applies in EvE - when we have new probe+dscan window docked/floating but out of focus. It's distracting as hell.
  • Some people (not me, I prefer new approach) will certainly prefer to be able to resize+rerange probes by grabbing spheres' borders. Please add an option to enable / disable that functionality for them (from their PoV it's hell of a regression)
  • Dscan red cone/sphere is a nice addition, but it does (sphere form especially) get in a way when probing a bit; Checkbox to enable / disable dscan cone hint would be a welcome addition. Different / selectable color for dscan cone/sphere - even more so.


Stuff that sometimes happen, but I haven't found a way to 100% reproduce it yet:


  • When starting beta map, I sometimes (rarely) get some white/black flashing mess NVM: I see you replied above regarding this.
  • Dscan cone on the new d+p map is sometimes stuck - it reacts to angle/range properly, but the direction vector doesn't change

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JonnyPew
Doomheim
#50 - 2015-11-03 15:39:41 UTC
Both the character sheet and training queue is lagging.

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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#51 - 2015-11-03 15:40:05 UTC
Longdrinks wrote:
everytime i press analyze on the probe window it scrolls up to the top of the list of scan results. Kind of annoying in a system with lots of sigs like thera were i have to scroll down each time and select the sig i want again to only show that red dot on the map.


Is this a departure from how the old system behaved?

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#52 - 2015-11-03 15:40:45 UTC
Lei Volund wrote:
Thank you for your time CCP Goliath, i will try and get used to the old old interface, shame really because the old new one was so close to being right


Noooooo! Get used to the new new interface! The old old interface is going away in a future release!

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

Longdrinks
Zero Fun Allowed
#53 - 2015-11-03 15:43:07 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Longdrinks wrote:
everytime i press analyze on the probe window it scrolls up to the top of the list of scan results. Kind of annoying in a system with lots of sigs like thera were i have to scroll down each time and select the sig i want again to only show that red dot on the map.


Is this a departure from how the old system behaved?

Yes in the old system i could sort by sig ID and scroll down that list and have it stay scrolled down while i probed.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#54 - 2015-11-03 15:43:25 UTC
Soltys wrote:
The issues are roughly the same I posted in that other thread in WH forum:


  • ALT probe repositioning (without range changing) has been moved to CTRL, and ALT took the reposition+rerange role (previously we had to grab spheres' borders). Why not just leave original function at ALT (that everyone is used to) and use CTRL for reposition+rerange ?
  • ALT/CTRL/SHIFT are treated as system wide shortcuts. Literally if EvE is in background but still visible (windowed mode, fixed windowed on another monitor), probe+dscan map does react visually (cones, arrows) to those keys regardless of what application has focus. Same obviously applies in EvE - when we have new probe+dscan window docked/floating but out of focus. It's distracting as hell.
  • Some people (not me, I prefer new approach) will certainly prefer to be able to resize+rerange probes by grabbing spheres' borders. Please add an option to enable / disable that functionality for them (from their PoV it's hell of a regression)
  • Dscan red cone/sphere is a nice addition, but it does (sphere form especially) get in a way when probing a bit; Checkbox to enable / disable dscan cone hint would be a welcome addition. Different / selectable color for dscan cone/sphere - even more so.


Stuff that sometimes happen, but I haven't found a way to 100% reproduce it yet:


  • When starting beta map, I sometimes (rarely) get some white/black flashing mess NVM: I see you replied above regarding this.
  • Dscan cone on the new d+p map is sometimes stuck - it reacts to angle/range properly, but the direction vector doesn't change


Not dodging your Alt/Ctrl question, just don't have an answer for you right now.

We put resize by grabbing spheres back in - you can do that again. Personally speaking I find the Mousewheel and mappable keyboard shortcuts far preferable now though.

D-scan toggle has been raised as a defect now :)

Dscan cone will change vector based on your in-space camera, not your map camera.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#55 - 2015-11-03 15:43:42 UTC
Longdrinks wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Longdrinks wrote:
everytime i press analyze on the probe window it scrolls up to the top of the list of scan results. Kind of annoying in a system with lots of sigs like thera were i have to scroll down each time and select the sig i want again to only show that red dot on the map.


Is this a departure from how the old system behaved?

Yes in the old system i could sort by sig ID and scroll down that list and have it stay scrolled down while i probed.


Cool, defect going in.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

Elwha Lynx
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#56 - 2015-11-03 15:44:50 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
[quote=Elwha Lynx]
The probe scanner window distance updates on scan, not like the overview with your current position.



Thanks that works....though might be a bit confusing since old probe scan window reset anom/sig ranges automatically when resorting and probe and directional scan (where the scan button is) are often separated for most players.
Lara Sunji
Doomheim
#57 - 2015-11-03 16:00:21 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Lei Volund wrote:
Thank you for your time CCP Goliath, i will try and get used to the old old interface, shame really because the old new one was so close to being right


Noooooo! Get used to the new new interface! The old old interface is going away in a future release!

Old map as well? Because that one I can actually use :(
Geopoly
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2015-11-03 16:01:21 UTC
Orca boosts no longer work for me...
Masaaq
Soggy Biscuit.
#59 - 2015-11-03 16:02:05 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Xeator wrote:
If I have D-scan, probe scanner and people & places tabs open, all stacked into the same window the game no longer even keeps them properly in order. It will always set the probe scanner as the last tab, even after I move them around again.

And on session change, like after gate jump it will always select the probe scanner as active.

Why does the order not remain after session changes? Why does it always select the probe scanner? It should be keeping the last selection active.


That seems like an issue we may have introduced. If you have the time, please do file a bug report on it, preferably from inside the client (F12)



From my experience the probe scanner is always selected as active upon any session change when you have both probes and d-scan in the same window. This is not new, however, please do make a fix so that the selected window doesn't jump to probe scanner 100% of the time. This would be awesome!

Also, the d-scan in map is just so great. Thank you very much.
Kasim Taldeer
Lewt Incorporation
#60 - 2015-11-03 16:03:32 UTC
I have an issue with the skill training.
I am currently training Heavy Drones V, and before DT the remaining time for the said skill was at 9 day and a few hours.
When I logged in after DT, in my character screen it's all fine, showing 9 days, but when I'm in the game, it lists my skill at 15 days from completion. I know the skill training has been rewrote or something, but did you also decide to reverse the skill points we got before DT?