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Your point is that a sharply scoped vignette relying on pilot idiocy to generate kills will be supplanted when citadels arrive because... pilots will somehow instantly mutate into perfect rational actors upon being tethered. I wasn't aware tethering boosted cognitive ability.

Tipa is clearly not familiar with the saying, "build an idiot-proof system and the world will produce a better idiot."

I have to say that if you currently get most of your kills by exploiting other players' lack of knowledge of basic game mechanics, you will probably continue to get plenty of kills when mechanics change.

Is that reimbursement going to include the cost of researching? if not, wtf?

Convert them to the same ME/PE BPO of the appropriate type.

Are you converting Starbases that are currently in place????

This may have been asked previously in this post or elsewhere... if so, please forgive

Cyno placement and the infamous "cyno bounce".

1. How will the new Citadel hulls interact with cyno placement? Inside or outside the tether field? If so; How far?

2. Will "cyno bounce" still be a feature ( intended or otherwise ) that will need consideration by the cyno pilot ?


Structure Hull composition

I noted that in "Build Layout" .png that we see station components in various multiples depending upon size. Mediums are pretty straight forward with either 1 or 4 specific named components required for a build. However, when you get to the L or XL Citadel we see 4, 8, 10, 11, 12 and 4, 40, 100, 400 respectively. Are these numbers arbitrary or based upon the constituent material quantities ( PI, Minerals, Structure Fuel Blocks )?

Considering that the industry side of the Eve house will undoubtedly be producing "Citadel kits" for market consumption, would it not make more sense to use multiples of just 1, 5, and 10 and adjust the base material quantity per component to maintain the same level of overall cost basis per hull unit and simplify the copy process? ( note that this is probably a mute issue for XL for obvious reasons ).

Example: Large Citadel requires 4 "Station Factory" Why not make that 5 "Station Factory" and adjust the material requirements to give it the same cost as 4 SF ( a reduction in materials per unit in this case ). That way we are making a BPC with 5 runs that can used for a M, L, or XL.

OR...

Was this intentionally done as a means to control market supply to prevent a glut of BPC's thereby driving down the cost ( and profitability )?
I can see this to be a double edged sword. Having hundreds of stagnant contracts floating around due to supply exceeding demand or supply not being met because the opportunity cost of excessive copy times. ( no one wastes a copy run right? ) Copy slots are a valuable commodity whether they be at a station or a POS. Are we sure this is the right metric to approach this with?
Thanks, Max


Edit: Yes, I am aware of the current limit of 7 runs per copy, per copy job run. That could be changed to max 10 runs unless there is a hard code problem in doing so.

I mean, in a roaming gang or with camping you can get kills on stations today (for whatever reason*). This is no more with citadels, hence this is a not so small safety improvement... and I'm questioning if EvE needs more safety.

EDIT: * pings maybe one reason, but also the pilot too optimistic about his tank, or the insta-warpout not good enough, or warping at wrong range to station, etc.

I am so looking forward to this!!

If the enemy has one pilot manning the guns on the station, that means one less pilot outside fighting on the undock. I really do not see this as a major change. Most of the time it is a terrible idea to fight on the undock anyway (yet silly people keeping doing it and dying hilariously when the defenders undock overwhelming force because people finally come back from being AFK).

Could you name who these 'smaller groups' are that have Titans and Super Carriers but can't afford an XL Citadel please?

So remind me how much Titans and Super Carriers cost. And why a single pilot who can barely afford a titan needs a Citadel to dock them in also? A single pilot is also not going to be leaving them in an XL-SMA, be consistent.
They will continue to use them like current, Cloaks and logging off.

Sure, Corps use them. Now prove that that was a single pilot, not a corp.
Also please prove to me that the pilot who could afford a 100 Billion ship can not afford a 70 billion Citadel, especially since they could also afford to lose said 100 billion ship. So losing a 70 Billion citadel and paying shipping on the titan would also be similar cost to them.

I really think you are crying over nothing.