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Lets have a Mining Revamp Devs!?

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Kestral Anneto
Almost Dangerous
Stranger Danger.
#1 - 2015-07-14 18:06:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Kestral Anneto
Ok, so FozzieSov has hit, and i'm ok with it, not overjoyed, its 'ok'.
The real question is, whats the next thing? If I could decide, it would have to be a mining revamp.
Mining makes EvE turn round, without the minerals that are mined, we wouldn't have the ships to die gloriously and as a miner / maker, i feel that mining has been neglected.
There have been multple great idea suggested in the F&I area, from comet mining to capital mining ships (I support both).
CCP did a good job on industry, but left the job half finished by not touching mining, so lets have a facelift.
Major Triscuits
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-07-14 18:12:05 UTC
Nah.
#gankminers
Kestral Anneto
Almost Dangerous
Stranger Danger.
#3 - 2015-07-14 18:15:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Kestral Anneto
Major Triscuits wrote:
Nah.
#gankminers


each to his own, but where do your replacement ships come from i wonder? even if it drops as loot, ore still has to be mined
Kiddoomer
The Red Sequence
#4 - 2015-07-14 18:34:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiddoomer
I agree 100% with that, but when I noticed than the comet idea was directly asked to CCP devs at the last fanfest, and the response was "maybe soon". I really wonder when it will be after I remember they said that the Rorqual needed to be redone asap.

Maybe now that FozzieSov is here, devs will be able to focus on other aspects of the game that hasn't been nerfed touched recently.

EDIT : if this revamp become a nerf to mining solo, my Exhumer V that end in 20min will make me so mad I'll entosis every station in nullsec until a got a bounty on my head more that 2B high.

In the name of Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen : “Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.”

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2015-07-14 18:56:25 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-07-14 19:02:24 UTC
I don't see the need for a change. When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#7 - 2015-07-14 19:17:02 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf.
Way back before the ice change, I made a miner and spent quite a few hours in the fields. I didn't find it in any way crippling. I actually found it quite enjoyable.

Chitchatting with the other regulars. People not in the same corp helping out with boosts. Not having to constantly be scanning thanks to the other locals keeping an eye on things.

All in all, probably the most time I've spent having fun with complete strangers in my eight years of playing this game. Which is likely why most 'elites' frown on the profession. It just doesn't sit right with them that random people should get along and cooperate for a common goal.

Mr Epeen Cool
Vipre Morte
Team JK
#8 - 2015-07-14 19:20:21 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf.
Way back before the ice change, I made a miner and spent quite a few hours in the fields. I didn't find it in any way crippling. I actually found it quite enjoyable.

Chitchatting with the other regulars. People not in the same corp helping out with boosts. Not having to constantly be scanning thanks to the other locals keeping an eye on things.

All in all, probably the most time I've spent having fun with complete strangers in my eight years of playing this game. Which is likely why most 'elites' frown on the profession. It just doesn't sit right with them that random people should get along and cooperate for a common goal.

Mr Epeen Cool


I completely agree.

I feel I should get that comment in before the haters / gankers / James-315-ers --- all of whom are the loudest on the subject of mining --- chime in with their usual garbage.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#9 - 2015-07-14 19:25:28 UTC
Always believed that miners and industrials need the ability to stand and fight.

Dock or die, quickly grows boring and tedious.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Major Triscuits
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-07-14 19:30:05 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Always believed that miners and industrials need the ability to stand and fight.

Dock or die, quickly grows boring and tedious.


Much like staring at stationary digital rocks all day.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#11 - 2015-07-14 19:38:59 UTC
*points at his signature*

that would be a start.

In addition:

moon goo becoming T2 moon ore and mined by players, not a pos in passive mode.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#12 - 2015-07-14 19:54:28 UTC
I too would like to see bigger mining hull... explosions. On the scale of stations. And I do mean just the explosion.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#13 - 2015-07-14 20:02:28 UTC
If you change mining to make it less mind-numbingly boring, the white knights will complain without cease. Mining is apparently "fun" for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with mining, so if you actually make them play the game such people's howling would throw the earth off it's axis.

If you don't change mining, it will still have an extremely high turnaround rate for people who engage in it, since it is literally less engaging than most Facebook games.

Personally, I don't care either way, but I will point that there would likely be a LOT less bots in this game if mining actually involved doing something. Also, nerf sentry drones.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#14 - 2015-07-14 20:18:24 UTC
Major Triscuits wrote:
Much like staring at stationary digital rocks all day.
Much like staring at a stationary digital gate when camping all day.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-07-14 20:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
Mr Epeen wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf.
Way back before the ice change, I made a miner and spent quite a few hours in the fields. I didn't find it in any way crippling. I actually found it quite enjoyable.

Chitchatting with the other regulars. People not in the same corp helping out with boosts. Not having to constantly be scanning thanks to the other locals keeping an eye on things.

All in all, probably the most time I've spent having fun with complete strangers in my eight years of playing this game. Which is likely why most 'elites' frown on the profession. It just doesn't sit right with them that random people should get along and cooperate for a common goal.

Mr Epeen Cool

Oh but that's not what I meant! I meant that people use skiffs and procurers, playing afk, instead of covetors and playing atk! I can consider intentionally lowering your yield as crippling your gameplay. This wasn't about "mining" per se, hey, I'm was mining just an hour ago! Lol

And changing mining to something purely atk will not only create an outrage, it's also a bad idea!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#16 - 2015-07-14 20:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Always believed that miners and industrials need the ability to stand and fight.

Dock or die, quickly grows boring and tedious.

Strip miners causing damage to hulls.

They are lasers after all.

The Skiff has a neat drone bonus, but it isn't enough alone.
Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
#17 - 2015-07-14 20:47:39 UTC
Sounds good. Make it involve Entosis Llinks and Frigates somehow.
Phoenix Jones
The Markoni Dragons
#18 - 2015-07-14 20:50:27 UTC
Remove moon mining from alliance and pos.

Rorquals now required to moon mine.

Moon mining now an active requirement (individuals can do it), or some variation.

Revamp the rorqual to survive roaming gangs or possibly reinforce itself.

Pieces of moon falls off rorqual for mining fleet to eat.

Possible rorqual shield while moon mining to protect fleet.

There are quite a few ideas on how to revamp mining.

Yaay!!!!

Crest Zah Donartal
Bluenose Corporation
#19 - 2015-07-14 20:56:37 UTC
No no i will not cripple my gameplay, i go not start a career as warrior.
I'm just a warmonger.
You need a gun?
...no problems.
Hehe.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#20 - 2015-07-14 21:03:42 UTC
in b4 lock:

Since your post amounts to nothing more than 'see other threads' im expecting this thread to be locked.

On the off chance the forum mods are taking a snooze and this thread actually stays open the Epic god-mode strip entire solar systems clean in one cycle 50 strip mining laser Rorqual will only do one thing destroy the already dismal ISK values of ore / minerals.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.

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