EVE General Discussion

Honestly? I'd pay the titan skin prices or even slightly more for universal skins. I'm not really interested in the extremely limited options you've released so far, it's basically impossible to make ships visually interesting without use of the bug. People want to make all their ships visually distinctive, not pay 10-30 bucks to alter one single tech 1 ship in an uninspired way.

Even something as simple as letting people choose the primary / secondary / tertiary colors for their ships would go a long way, and circumvent the technical limitations you guys seem to be having, if they have to do with the skins that don't follow the ships base color layout (like Blood Raiders). We, the players, don't give a **** about corp and faction colors. We want customization.

My opinion...

1 Plex equivalent for the best Skins available on all ships you own, with the following points:
a) if they were optimal (QA'd), the for any correct faction ships
b) at players risk for not yet QA'd faction ships and incorrect Faction ships. with proper warning at time of application.
c) appear on the whole account, i.e all three alts on the account.

Less than that for the more mundane skins, but all other points, the same as above.

10% of original cost, to be able to repackage the skin after use and resell it on the market.

Get rid of 30 day skins and make them one ship (but any one ship of the class for which it dropped), unlimited time. So if you lose it, it is gone.


Please remember this is an opinion, like it or not this is what I would be prepared to pay.

To the wonderful CCP Devs and art team. Please dont fix this, just optimize them. Yes I will throw more plex and money at you if i can have any skin on any ship. Like a police persuit hurricane? :D

Or a Blood raider nightmare....

OMG Blood raider Avatar :D

Come on CCP we will love you really long time if you can do this.

I was thinking about this quite a lot today. If we could pay for skins that could then be assigned to any ship I'd be happy to pay as much as $20 a skin, $15 more preferably. If we could buy a "faction" related skin (to help protect lore as CCP have stated) that could then be applied to any ship of the appropriate faction (i.e. Buy a khanid skin that could then be applied to any amarrian ship I would probably pay as much as $15 with $10 being more preferable. All prices U.S. At the prefered prices I'd probably buy 4+ skins. At the high end I would probably pick a couple of my favorites and only buy 2. 3 if I saw one that I just HAD to have.

Just to reiterate though, on skins that are restricted to a single ship, I wouldn't and won't buy any. Even at $2-$3 dollars. Just the process of having to buy individual skins for EVERY individual ship is just a turn off. Skins are pretty but at that level it's just more of a pain in the behind than it's worth regardless of the price. Too much micro-management IMO

Just give 'em what they want. Everything. All ships, all colors.

Then charge $600.00 for it. Cash. No PLEX option and can't be sold on the market.

I look forward to the threadnaught following that announcement.

Mr Epeen

Going to go ahead and contribute this:

I think one of the person's comments about the Chinese having whatever they want fits the bill with the rest of us when it comes to the skins. I do not think a skin should be confined to a certain race's ships but should be universally available to all. I mean isn't that the whole point of, despite having to pick a specific race when first starting off in the game, being able to choose whichever side or empire faction you want to side with. I think the same mentality should apply to the skins. Let's say I'm in npc nullsec in the guristas territory and I'm an RPer. I may be flying a Minmatar Vargur by siding with the Guristas I'd love to be able to apply that guristas camo scheme to show my support to the faction.


As for the 30 day skins, I think that was a mistake. If we want to encourage rarity let's just raise the price of the skin itself in loyalty points as opposed to putting a time limit on it. There's always going to be new players or people creating new toons and wanting to utilize new skins. That's never going to go away.


In regards to time limits as well as what skin can be applied to what ship, unlike actual game mechanics, I think the skins are being taken too seriously. I can already see people like Code laughing their asses off and putting the police cruiser skin on a bunch of catalysts claiming to be the mining police, warping down and obliterating a bunch of miners in Parses. I'd pay money to see that just for the laughs.


For instance, I'm a big fan of armor ships but I love the story/mythology behind the guristas faction, hence why I used it as an earlier example. I'd love to be able to take one of my Vindicators or my Nyx for example and slap a Guristas camo scheme and logo as a salute to the faction.

Typing this at work so I'm kind of half paying attention to what I'm saying and what I'm doing at work, but I hope all of this made sense. Ship skins don't affect game mechanics. They're superficial but very desirable things and I think restricting them to certain factions is a let down. People want a little pep in their game and allowing universal faction skins across the board would be a big hit. Heck I'm sure there's some people here still Jonesing for a Gurista Raven or a Blood Raider Aeon.

Hopefully somewhere down the line it'll get to where we can design our own ship skins for our alliances and submit them like we do alliance logos. I'm sure a goonswarm fleet of Ishkurs that have a bumblebee paint scheme would turn some heads.


ETA: ok I'm going to go ahead and side with the person on the issue of the quafe mega. I think the special edition ships need to be reverted back to just that. They're limited hallmark ships that signify something. However doesn't mean the skin can't be used though. What I mean is, you can still have the quafe skin for the megathron but it isn't going to come up on d-scan as quafe megathron, just a megathron. With the Megathron Quafe Edition, the title in itself signifies the ownership of a limited ship and they could possible be modified a little bit to identify their significant such as maybe some armor bonuses or an extra turret. I mean wasn't that the whole purpose of the Tournament awards? Give them a little pep. Say 50% armor resists all across the board or something. Just a little something to say, hey this person contribute something so he was awarded this special ship and it does this one thing slightly better and has more demand.

1) As other posters have suggested, tiered pricing according to hull size, and extension to t2 variants.
2) Just as player corporation logos are made up of 3 layers, a similar, though probably more restricted, scheme for SKINing ships in player corporation or alliance colours.

I would extend the SKINs we have at the moment to affect the hull type, rather than the specific ship. So for instance as mentioned, a vexor skin would apply to vexors and ishtars. That would be a fair compromise in my opinion to both the player base and to CCP.

The only exception would be for any faction ship such as pirate and navy ships. They should always retain their unique iconic scheme for consistency.

Pricing is a difficult issue, but I think there should be some sort of method just so that it makes sense to players. In general the trend should be that the larger the class of ship the more expensive the scheme. At the moment there are some extreme examples of frigates costing as much as a capital ship skin which I think is what some people are disliking.

Edit - also don't seed the 30 day and time limited skins in the NES store or for any ship that people have spent money on. They could have a place though, for instance skins which drop in the game, and skins for special events such as Christmas. But those skins should be completely separate to the ones that people pay for with money. The reason being, you need these skins to retain their exclusivity, if not you are just going to annoy people who have paid money for something by making it available later in different forms. This would reduce confidence and undermine the whole system.

I think there's nothing wrong with frigate skins being expensive, a lot of players exclusively fly frigates and this doesn't mean that they're poor, but some of the prices are a little ridiculous for what they are so.... how about keeping high prices and making the skins universal licenses, but only actually possible to apply to ships they've passed QA on, so a quafe skin for instance lets you fly a quafe tristan, catalyst, vexor, dominix, megathron, thanatos, nyx and obelisk. Convert injected licenses which are now duplicates back into items on the redemption queue.

I may or may not be saying this partly because I wish I could fly quafe catalysts and megathrons but I do think that players are more likely to buy SKINs this way.

Did you just buy the quafe Tristan by any chance..?

Nice try there. *winks*