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Timezone-locked faction warfare. What could possibly go wrong?

The fear mongering you guys keep doing is getting tiresome.

m8 you're confused. That post has the most candor of any of my posts in this thread so far.

I dont doubt that many of the gamers in goons/cfc want the game to be fun! I had a great time rolling around with Topgoon last time I was subbed in 2014. But what is this above meant to prove? Is it that CFC/The Mittani will use all tools including those of a physcological nature that dont have an ingame mechanic in order to wear down their enemy. Check, we knew that!!! Its pretty much how CFC won the Tribute war against NC.

You can sh*t all over other entities, we know that. But what the game lacks now is a chance for smaller entities and newer groups to be part of nullsec sov-holding. The large exception to it being impossible are the variouss reddit-born groups that have come onto eve during the last years. Maybe some of these mechanics like the Entosis module need to be tuned, but focusing capitals towards fighting capitals as is a great thing. Finally I can use my dreads and carriers for combat and even when in a smaller group. Having sov space again would be fun and I would like to help my alliancemates who never had the chance for null get in at an entry level. Not everyone is suited for the coalitions, and the game desperately needs mechanics that are focused on serving the smaller and mid-sized groups. Large coalitions will still be superstrong but holding all the empty territories will be harder and less motivating for the line members, which is a good thing tbh.

I dont want to be a renter and I dont want to be part of the larger coalitions this time around because I have absolutely NO impact on what content is generated for me with the exception of a roam or so. Not that I have all the answers, but the best gametime for me was when in small to mid-sized alliances without a bloated bluelist.

That sov levels are based on mining and ratting is a far greater issue imo. Mining and running anomalies are really bad parameters with regards to providing security to other players and fuelling the industry that alliances really need in order to function combatwise and provide SRP to members. Industry has other indexes after Crius that would be much more relavant to use. For security its more tricky, since any linking of pvp-kills/value can be exploited as proven by goon finance cabal when revamped FW was introduced.

Actually, if you check the comments in the trollceptor article on TMC, I did the math: CONDI could mount an active defense of every sov structure it owns and still theoretically have 50% of its 11,997 members available to troll.



Really? Cuz we don't. :)

The point will not be to hold, but to grief you. Unachor the Ihub and destroy the upgrades then reanchor it again. Now you have to bring in a new ihub and upgrades.

Hey Dark Spite, I didn't mean for it to make anyone upset. I mentioned it for anyone interested in proof of how Entosis sov will be used by goons.

The summary of Mittenz' talk was how to run sov warfare. So it is very relevant. He also mentions that Sov is EVE's best / only undeniable win condition. You can measure battles in ISK and ships, but the final flag that is planted is Sov. So. Sov has ISK benefits, but it's not about that, it's about planting that flag.

The other interesting thing about his talk is the date. 2012. At the time, his example for griefing was fake-out cynos, for days on end. Light random cynos in the space you intend to invade, and bring nothing through it. They'll respond and get amped up initially, but over time it will just wear them down.

Not sure if you're aware, but groups in EVE fall apart without so much as a shot fired, due to things like stress.

In 2015, it won't be cynos, it will be Entosis modules. The tactics he discussed in that presentation work even better with Entosis sov.

And then you have the people who have posted in this thread. They are warning everyone that Entosis sov will be bad. Gevlon included, and his comments can be taken as acknowledgement that it will be abused by you know who. Goon comments can be taken as gloating, or whatever you like.

Goons are incapable of fighting alone in such small numbers. So to entertain the idea that they would fair well in small scale combat is laughable - much less solo pvp.

I'm just taking playful jabs by the way. I mean no harm.

That is going to be 4 lovely hours sitting there with the defence beam. Sounds like a good mechanic right ? The attacker has everything to win and nothing to lose.

CCP I spoke to some ex-players about this change, most of who left due to sov being meh, and so far everyone who I spoke to were positive and were thinking about re-subbing so they can carve out their own space even if its precarious. Stick to your guns on this, its being well received by people who left because doing sov was impossible with supers on line.