Player Features and Ideas Discussion

To Be honest since you nerfed the carriers jump range i just stopped useing carriers fullstop.
what your doing is messing with billions of isk worth of ships that people worked the ass's off
in game to build, and have rendered them almost useless from their traditional roles.

Contant fiddleing and messing with stuff may seem like a great idea to you guys, but all your doing
is alienateing people from going into those types of ships.


i dont support chages to the way fighters currently work. but whats the point in telling you anyway.
if your going to nerf something, you will no matter what the players say.

As much as I don't want to see fighters lose assignment or warp a lot of that just doesn't apply - a small roaming gang will NOT win the war of attrition by killing fighters as they can be recalled or assigned to another player out of range once they get low health. Bashing the POS will do nothing and you'll be extremely lucky to get into a position to kill or even hot drop the super/carrier unless the pilot gets extremely lazy/sloppy.

Trying to get away is easier said than done - skynet fighters can easily blap fast inties, etc. sure if you've got a few players in the gang those not tackled can warp off and try and find the super/carrier but by the time they've done that the player(s) tackled will be long dead and the super/carrier safe.

On the flipside I managed to escape easily in a sleipnir and if I'd have had my links alt with me or been dual booster fit probably would have been able to kill them rather than run away - if I had been caught in open space in that instance instead of near a gate though I'd have been dead.

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Just to remind you for what carriers are intend to.. and what you tell even ingame.. so leave this content and maybe fix it!
As many here intended do not allow assignment if close to POS etc.

Just remove drone modes. Some of them were noble but bad idea

Removing this from the game is an extremely bad idea. It just makes carriers just a little more useless than they already are. Carriers need this ability to be of any interesting use in the game. Just make it more dangerous please.. increase range from POS where this can be done, and make the carrier maintain this distance, otherwise fighters warp back and dock.

Carriers being able to do this is one of the most cool and interesting things you can do in EVE! Remove it, and make the game just a little less interesting as a whole.

You know, CCP, instead of removing carriers' and supercarriers' ability to provide thousands of dps from off-grid in almost total safety and thereby obliterate a completely legitimate playstyle that we've all worked hard to participate in, you could simply add better counters to them.

A few inter-system doomsdays would take care of a Skynet-fit Nyx pretty quick.

Sitting on a gate with 3 Inties and a nyx's dps was dumbing the game down

Kill all drone assist (not just fighters).
Limit sentry drones to battlecruiser and high hulls.
Leave fighter warp mechanics as they are.

Considering the amount of time and effort that goes into training to use a Carrier and Fighters, you need to have some perks to them.

If you want to stop the tactic of assigning fighters to fast tackle such then you have a few options in my opinion:

1. Remove fighter assist altogether.
- yes it stops this tactic full stop, but also removes some creativity of players.
- Too easy to do this, best to try some other options first.

2. Have fighter assist dependent of bandwidth of the assisting player.
- Fighters currently need 25mbit/s, so this tactic would still work, but limited to larger ships and a few cruisers.
- Still doesn't add any more risk to the Carrier pilot.

3. Require carriers to be on grid with the assisting ship.
- adds more risk to the carrier pilot
- Would still allow fast tackle to be in assistance.

I think having a combination of options 2 and 3 would work.
If carrier pilots want to assign fighters to another pilot, then make the assisting Pilot stay on grid and a decent amount of bandwidth (125mib/s for 5 fighters) to do so. This would force fleets that want to use this tactic to make sure they have suitable ships for assisting and mean that the carrier pilot can't just hide away and rock up kill-mails.

As for fighter warping, well that is not mentioned in the original question, but I can't see why that has to be changed. Its something rather unique and to my knowledge doesn't adversely effect the game right now.

Don't touch fighters and capitals. You already fix it enough. Next step can kill this class at all. (you fixed drones, you fixed jumps, Stop it! )

If you will remove assist with fighters you'll change balance to mass of crying zerg again. It's not normal that count of players (e.g. in gang) is better than their quality. When you fixed jumps you've already given this problem to small corporations and now you want to do their defence more hard. Are you crazy guys? Stop fix everything that you see. Do something new. Combine DUST and EVE for example. give to us new ships (that can be alternative for ishtars. No. You want to fix. FIX. FIX. You're doing it so long time.