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Professor Alphane
Nefarious Industrialists
Mildy Unprofessional
#161 - 2011-12-20 19:26:29 UTC
Yes thats gonna cause some lulz.

DUST PLAYER: Please nice mister podder can you escort me to my map?

EVE PLAYER: Whats the isk/hr ? not sure that fits in with my oppurtunity cost assesment.

or

DUST PLAYER: Please nice mister podder can you escort me to my map?

EVE PLAYER: Yes sure no worries

EVE PLAYER (CORP CHANNEL): Nother meat van on it's way boys Pirate

DUST PLAYER: We waz ganked

EVE PLAYER: Damn sorry dude IRL stuff was called AFK *shrugs and enjoys bitter dusty tears*

Oh the fun we'll have Roll

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#162 - 2011-12-20 19:28:33 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Yes thats gonna cause some lulz.

DUST PLAYER: Please nice mister podder can you escort me to my map?

EVE PLAYER: Whats the isk/hr ? not sure that fits in with my oppurtunity cost assesment.

or

DUST PLAYER: Please nice mister podder can you escort me to my map?

EVE PLAYER: Yes sure no worries

EVE PLAYER (CORP CHANNEL): Nother meat van on it's way boys Pirate

DUST PLAYER: We waz ganked

EVE PLAYER: Damn sorry dude IRL stuff was called AFK *shrugs and enjoys bitter dusty tears*

Oh the fun we'll have Roll



Until he wises up and spreads the word.

You do realize they don't need us to take a planet for themselves, and that has an effect on your ability to hold SOV. Smile

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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#163 - 2011-12-20 19:37:35 UTC
were the armour classes there before and is that todays date? 2011.12.20 CCP CMDR WANG


http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/3327/dropsuits-in-dust-514
Professor Alphane
Nefarious Industrialists
Mildy Unprofessional
#164 - 2011-12-20 19:39:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Alphane
Ranger 1 wrote:


Until he wises up and spreads the word.




Being AWARE theres a pirate aspect to EVE doesn't make it magically go away. Dummy corps, alts, who's gonna be able to track you.

Unless you mean until they realise podders won't do diddley for you unless theres MOAR ISK involved, and as the system reallies on us to accomidate the dusties, they wise up spread the word and play something else.

Ranger 1 wrote:

You do realize they don't need us to take a planet for themselves, and that has an effect on your ability to hold SOV. Smile


Don't see why you think this has any bearing on the logistic issue as sitting on a planet with your corp does not a battle make. Someone needs to try and invade you, to do that they need to enlist the help of podders.

Also WHAT effect, and WHY, do you think SOV holders in EVE are gonna be happy there trillion isk fleets and installations are gonna be more vunrable because of the comings and goings of some 'flash in the pan' console players.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2011-12-20 19:52:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Freezehunter wrote:
Winters Chill wrote:
You can buy a PS3 2nd hand for less money that it costs to upgrade to the latest graphics card.

Some people underestimate the amount of people who have PS3's and will play a quality 3rd person shooter for half the price of a AAA title, that will be constantly updated for free, and expanded for free. And where each battle is meaningful in a bigger picture and the maps aren't repetitive corridors. And you get to fly gunships and drive tanks!!!!

Even if Dust 514 peaks at 1000 active users a day it will be a success in terms of dust/eve interaction.

As an eve player you have nothing to lose by Dust existing. There is no reason for the pathological Dust hate.

If your jealous about the xbox thing, man up and buy a 160gb PS3 (which costs less than an iPod touch, iPad and most good mobile phones). And as for the controller, I use my xbox controller on my ps3 cus I have a converter.

As for the whole "should be on the PC " thing. I played Planetside the ability to make wall hacks and CoF hacks ruined the game a lot more than the BFRs did.


You forgot the part where CCP charges you the price of the game (pobably 60 bucks) + 20 bucks *entrance fee* to buy in-game currency to get weapons and ****...

Oh, and you also forgot the part where they will milk the **** out of you, so that you can get that new shiny gun or vehicle, so that you eventually pay as much as you would to get a whole gaming computer just to be able to compete with all the other pay2win guys.

You'll see... It will be just like Battlefield Heroes, where you have to spend like 300 dollars to have any chance against anyone, because non-MT weapons are pathetic and underpowered compared to the ones people buy with real $$$.

OH! And I almost forgot!

You might wanna' read this: http://news.tgn.tv/dust-514-fail-and-lies/


TGN? Who or what the **** is TGN and what the hell do they know about anything?

Quote:
The game is totally free to play, for twenty bucks it also has cross game content with EVE, on different platforms and it’s really innovative, by being on the wrong platform.


So they are XBots and fanboys who's only purpose is to hate on the PS3. Not even worth reading past that sentence.

Your posts suck. Please stop.

Edit:

Wow...didnt realize this thread reached this many pages. Thats what I get for not reading... =P

I think we should all stop speculating on what DUST might be and wait and see what it is when it releases. For every bad posting negative hater I see posting about DUST I see 20 more people who can't wait to see it and try it.

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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#166 - 2011-12-20 20:59:21 UTC
hey freezehunter, not that you really do work for funcom or anything but John Smedley says hi and wants to have a drink with you to discuss how to run more games into the ground. Roll

back to reality, i think that you have played a lot of games and certainly can be called an expert, but only about as much as an expert as you are at finding the clitoris. lol dude, get a life......REALLY
Captain Alcatraz
Did he say Jump
Dock Workers
#167 - 2011-12-20 21:00:30 UTC
Spelling mistake in title, troll detected.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#168 - 2011-12-20 22:24:17 UTC
Still one thing was made clear.

You can enjoy either game wtihout one game entirely wrecking the other.

Which means planetary infastructure thats dust related would seem to be optional I want to have installed tools.
Dust 514 players can play for free considering they can grind Faction Warfare Planets for money instead of relying on money bags here in eve to fund htem.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#169 - 2011-12-20 22:30:01 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:


Until he wises up and spreads the word.




Being AWARE theres a pirate aspect to EVE doesn't make it magically go away. Dummy corps, alts, who's gonna be able to track you.

Unless you mean until they realise podders won't do diddley for you unless theres MOAR ISK involved, and as the system reallies on us to accomidate the dusties, they wise up spread the word and play something else.

Ranger 1 wrote:

You do realize they don't need us to take a planet for themselves, and that has an effect on your ability to hold SOV. Smile


Don't see why you think this has any bearing on the logistic issue as sitting on a planet with your corp does not a battle make. Someone needs to try and invade you, to do that they need to enlist the help of podders.

Also WHAT effect, and WHY, do you think SOV holders in EVE are gonna be happy there trillion isk fleets and installations are gonna be more vunrable because of the comings and goings of some 'flash in the pan' console players.


Since DUST players that need transport will likely be representing two (or more) warring EVE alliances, I don't think transport and logistics to the battle ground will be much of an issue. Most often the majority of the merc's involved on either side will be members of or strongly affiliated with the corps/allainces in question.

Personally, I don't care what alliance leadership thinks about it. If they can't adapt to the changing face of warfare in EVE they will be consumed by those that can.

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Professor Alphane
Nefarious Industrialists
Mildy Unprofessional
#170 - 2011-12-20 22:35:11 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
If they can't adapt to the changing face of warfare in EVE they will be consumed by those that can.


Well that would kind of depend on how much it actually changes things in EVE. Too much influence given to DUST mechanics could be as bad as too little, it's a fine balance that needs to be found.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#171 - 2011-12-20 22:51:05 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
If they can't adapt to the changing face of warfare in EVE they will be consumed by those that can.


Well that would kind of depend on how much it actually changes things in EVE. Too much influence given to DUST mechanics could be as bad as too little, it's a fine balance that needs to be found.


Very much agreed... although I'm sure no matter how it shakes out there will be considerable debate.

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Professor Alphane
Nefarious Industrialists
Mildy Unprofessional
#172 - 2011-12-20 22:55:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Alphane
If by debate you mean trolling, flaming and other forum shinanigans I reckon you right Blink

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Gogela
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#173 - 2011-12-21 01:47:22 UTC
I'll tell you what is the most dodgy thing about DUST imho... it's the apparent lack of a literal or metaphorical "sticky grenade". In every FPS I've ever played there is the potential for that "prayer" play. That moment when your shield is down and you have a sliver of health left, and you are about to die, but 'oh wait! what's this?! I still have a rocket/sticky/bomb/whatever' and you take your ordinance in and sacrifice yourself taking out 2 or 3 enemy players. That is a great moment in the game. The smug self-satisfaction of turning the tables. ...or that 'prayer' shot where you land the perfectly placed sniper shot from across the map. ...or that 'prayer' lobbed sticky that was throw way up in the air, bounced off of 2 grav lifts, and caught a vehicle in flight. These are great moments for FPS people. They also make for great videos and advertising. I sincerely hope that those kind of videos become prolific after the launch of DUST, and not lame videos showing 10 dudes opening up on a single guy with these purported 'logistics' support armor guys making the target appear invulnerable. The latter will turn people off to the game faster than anything.

Dare I ask...

CCP... gotz sticky grenade?

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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#174 - 2011-12-21 12:35:53 UTC
Gogela wrote:
I'll tell you what is the most dodgy thing about DUST imho... it's the apparent lack of a literal or metaphorical "sticky grenade". In every FPS I've ever played there is the potential for that "prayer" play. That moment when your shield is down and you have a sliver of health left, and you are about to die, but 'oh wait! what's this?! I still have a rocket/sticky/bomb/whatever' and you take your ordinance in and sacrifice yourself taking out 2 or 3 enemy players. That is a great moment in the game. The smug self-satisfaction of turning the tables. ...or that 'prayer' shot where you land the perfectly placed sniper shot from across the map. ...or that 'prayer' lobbed sticky that was throw way up in the air, bounced off of 2 grav lifts, and caught a vehicle in flight. These are great moments for FPS people. They also make for great videos and advertising. I sincerely hope that those kind of videos become prolific after the launch of DUST, and not lame videos showing 10 dudes opening up on a single guy with these purported 'logistics' support armor guys making the target appear invulnerable. The latter will turn people off to the game faster than anything.

Dare I ask...

CCP... gotz sticky grenade?


I think there shall be many suicide attempts, especially from people in the air.

Y'see, CCP talked a big game regarding atmospheric flight youtube link and now that we haven't been given this directly in EVE, I wouldn't be surprised if disgruntled players took it upon themselves to ruin the fun for Dust players by flying an expensive VTOL vehicle into a crowd of opposing (or even non-opposing) players - just for fun.

Now, what we need to do now is think up some good names for this type of behavior...

AK

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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#175 - 2011-12-21 14:31:38 UTC
wow a crow in the planets atmosphere. prolly something that was discussed and tried a long long time ago and i'm pretty sure that was abandonend when they found out that eve and dust pilots would not be sharing the "same interactive game space per say" i hope i'm wrong because that would be just too awsome. bombing runs from within eve, wow imagine entering the atmosphere and doing a rocket/bombing run to help your troops on the ground. imagine looking up from dust and watching a massive piloted ship fly in as support.

2006 is a long time ago (even longer when you think of the work they did to get to that stage) and a lot of things change in the development span of a game i would imagine. who could not like that concept if it could be made to work and balanced properly. it would change gaming as we know it today that's for sure.
Prince Kobol
#176 - 2011-12-21 14:46:57 UTC
My own opinion of Dust is that I will not make any judgements until they at the very least release a alpha version for closed testing.

Alas this is the Eve forums where people love to whine, ***** and moan about absolutely everything and anything
Elo Spektrum
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#177 - 2011-12-21 15:24:43 UTC
I'd rather not speculate too much before solid alpha stage feedback, but would this be the chance to actually fly our ships to some state while providing support for ground forces? Also cross platform synergy is something which I don't remember never have been accomplished, one way for Dust hit to through and kick some extra speed into EVE too.

ESp
Winters Chill
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#178 - 2011-12-21 15:49:56 UTC
Elo Spektrum wrote:
I'd rather not speculate too much before solid alpha stage feedback, but would this be the chance to actually fly our ships to some state while providing support for ground forces? Also cross platform synergy is something which I don't remember never have been accomplished, one way for Dust hit to through and kick some extra speed into EVE too.

ESp


You can get a really good feel for Dust if you follow the internet trail the developers have created, so I don't see that much speculation. I also see is a lot of excited people looking forward to what looks like some unique and promising.

And one or two buzz kills with no reason to be (yes I mean you freeze hunter).



Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#179 - 2011-12-21 17:40:00 UTC
PS3 shooter fans are drooling, mostly from the MAG clans. (yean you thought that was a pc only thing mag is the so far the only consol shooter I know of to form clans on teh same level as oh say the old tribes shooters)

Every shooter fan I have talked to are jaw dropping over the simple ideas of
1 previous battle at the location has had an effect.
2 concequences of winning or losing are much longer lasting.
3 it effects a whole bunch of people who may not be able to play your game at all.

There is not 1, Not in partial, not in one point, not in combination of any of the above point, Not a single that I or they know of that does this, it will not be just turning on the console to rack up some points. Its going to be turning on the consoles to burn one of our empires down. Planetary Soverenty may possibly be a big internal threat to space sov.

Does you no good if you own the waters around the islands if the natives there are going to cost you dearly to assert your point of view.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#180 - 2011-12-21 17:41:27 UTC
Also the things I am 'speculating' about is very dependent on the simple notion if they are going to keep it for launch or chop that feature off.

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