Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I like the changes.

I liked them more with the tank increase, but w/e.

Faction warfare plexes are, at present, run by FRIGATES. Very rarely you will see a few corps that run cruiser gangs. So, if you want the medium LP, maybe bring something that wont be instablapped by awaiting recon ships. Everyone complains about how FW is broken, but I think this will finally start enticing players to use something other than t1 frigs to pvp with. Nothing is stopping FW fleets from ALSO bringing recon fleets, and the Dscan immunity works both ways.

And seriously, dont cry about ECM, cry that you didnt fit to counter it or train up your skills in the sensor operation for your chosen ship racial. Every single thing in this game has a counter. Just because people dont want to fit the counters into their cookie-cutter fits doesnt mean the mechanic is broken.

WH space is going to be a bit more tricky, but as always, WH corps will develop tactics to overcome it. People should start thinking more like dropbears and less like carebears. Watching the hole while your corp is running sites may be boring, but you do what you can if you want to be useful.

One suggestion I would make to CCP, bring back the HAC resists for the ships that are intended for close range combat.

T1 frigates typically have NOWHERE NEAR enough DPS to effectively run medium plexes.

Stick to what you know.

Nope.

I think i would have rather had the resists over D-scan immunity

It is absolutely relevant, because it vastly decreases the effort threshold required to not get caught, which in turn vastly decreases the benefits of bringing a cloak, which totally breaks the relationship between the force recons and the combat recons. Obviously fitting a cloak makes a ship impossible to probe out, but that's exactly why the ships that are designed around that mechanic make other sacrifices that combat recons do not.



Don't forget that things will rarely progress to this stage (scanning every system) anyway, because of the high possibility that the random unaccounted for dude in system is either cloaked or docked. In a lot of instances people will just move on through without even looking, because the effort required to find the combat recon is high and the possibility of being rewarded with a kill is very low. Unless people watched a recon enter the system and warp off to a safe, they're not going to bother.

Dumb indeed. WH space is now only for big alliances. Creating content no destroying you mean! Small corporations can't do anything in wormholes which was restricted after the last dumb wormhole patch really do you have brains?

Or do you only want big alliances? Which I personaly hate!!!

There are a lot of idiots in eve

That´s funny since almost everybody I talked to thinks it is a ****** change.
It will keep soloplayers out of the lowerclasses so less people to play with and shoot at. Ofc this does not matter for the higherclasses where a few recons are no threat to your farming but just some more salvage after dreadblapping.
And the reasoning for this new mechanic is "it is cool and more fights will happen because of bad intel"......

You realize that you have just changed your argument entirely, you've literally pointed out exactly why there's nothing wrong with dscan immunity, because it will be no different than it is now. That extra person in local is either cloaked/docked, if cloaked he may show up on grid with you, if docked you have nothing to worry about. In the case of dscan immunity its the same thing. He's either in a combat recon somewhere, or docked - the same outcome will take place.

In the case of wormhole systems, any corporation living in w-space is going to have an active prober on pretty much all the time anyway, so yea the scanning will take place, and they will likely have every ship sig scanned out ahead of time anyway, new sig shows up with nothing on dscan, looks like theres a combat recon in system time to take precautions.

People cried, the resists got rolled back.

Your argument is invalid.