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UI Modernization preview - Feedback and issues

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CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2014-11-07 15:06:29 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Claymore
Hello everyone,

Team Game of Drones are working on some changes to the UI and we would love you all to give it a try and let us know what you think.

Read the relevant devblog here and then jump onto SISI and have a shot.

Work on the feature is still in progress and we are very interested in what you have to say on the potential changes. Please provide as much constructive feedback as possible over the next 3 days.

If you find anything you believe to be a bug or if it does not sit right in your head please report it through the F12 menu. If you can include what color setting you are using and what level of 'Post Processing' you are using that would be amazing.

Hope you enjoy.

Known Issues:
Fleet Hangar icons do not stay green in ship inventory
UI Scaling leaves a shadow appearing on windows
New button glow effect not applying to Selected Item window when in space
Cargo Hold menu item in neocom is missing an icon
Notification Settings window is using the wrong style
Isis is using the same icon as the Tutorial icon in the expanded Neocom menu

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DmitryEKT
AMMO INC
#2 - 2014-11-07 15:21:28 UTC  |  Edited by: DmitryEKT
Some sort of slider to customise the amount of mouseover glow would be good. Personally I prefer as little as possible. I know where my mouse is anyway, don't need things super glowy to remind me.

Also, the grey background on module icons in the HUD is really out of place now. Maybe make it match the theme?
Cupi222
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-11-07 15:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Cupi222
Hello. At first look the color's look nice, but may i suggest that you add this somewere in settings! To make it posible for everyone to choose if they want the new look, the old look, or maybe a red/green/orange menu etc. maybe in some places ofd the game i want the new look and somewere i want the old look, or to change the intensity of the colors..dunno. things like this. and i know its not that easy, but you've done the same thing with sounds and its great ^^

The blue its nice and i like it on tabs, but i don't really like the new icons. the station icons are ok (i don't use them that much) but i would like to keep the curent icons for the left panel (mail,market,contact etc)

So i suggest , if possible, to make the menu as customizable as possible. that goes for the picture on the caracter selection screen (maybe on this screen you can make it posible for each player to select not only from a series of screen from the game, but maybe to upload/set a screen from computer..a screenshot from game or something)
CCP Paradox
#4 - 2014-11-07 15:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Paradox
Cupi222 wrote:
Hello. At first look the color's look nice, but may i suggest that you add this somewere in settings! To make it posible for everyone to choose if they want the new look, the old look, or maybe a red/green/orange menu etc.


There are some preset colors to try out instead of blue though. Let us know what you think.

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Cupi222
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-07 15:36:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Cupi222
CCP Paradox wrote:
Cupi222 wrote:
Hello. At first look the color's look nice, but may i suggest that you add this somewere in settings! To make it posible for everyone to choose if they want the new look, the old look, or maybe a red/green/orange menu etc.


Go into settings, it's all there as before, you can change the colors. Try that out and let us know.


edit 1: ^^ oky. i've haden't look there yet. it was just a first impression after ~20 sec of looking at the new UI :D

edit 2: found them, and found it in the dev blog where you posted this. sorry :D

For me the Caldari color is the best, i like it, (i would use this color with old icons) but still i would like to choose if i want to use the new or old icons OR mabye as with colors you can make a series of icons for each nation..just saying :D


edit 3: i don't really see a bit differance betwin pin/unpined windows as i do with the actual screens

edit 4: Canenald saying in the other topic "I don't like the new simplistic Google-style buttons and tabs. I prefer the 3d feel of the old ones" i agree
Jackson Apollo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-11-07 15:36:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jackson Apollo
lookin good so far folks.

makes me scared and excited. (CHANGE IS SCARY)

I need to click on all the things and then I'll be sure to come complain about something here.

IM HELPING

Edit: Black is the best imo

ya'll did a great job with the transparency.

churchy2 is to bright to read the words in the selected overview tab
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#7 - 2014-11-07 15:59:10 UTC
I just tried it...

HOLY SH*T, GOOD JOB. Big smile

All the customization options are there (I was affraid we would be stuck to blue), it looks nice, modern, and all that.

More detailed feedback will require further testing now :)

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Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2014-11-07 15:59:16 UTC
Station panel disappeared. I had to toggle the ISIS thing on and off for it to show up. Then I undocked and when I docked it was gone again.

Also, could you talk me through why you don't have text labels on the neocom as an option?
Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
#9 - 2014-11-07 16:02:19 UTC
If you haven't already, you might look into the research that was done to develop actual military computer interfaces or civilian power plant interfaces and human reliability concerning interface design, etc etc. Things that are from the 70's, or some scifi movie with flashy lights and weird icons do not always make the best, most reliable user interface, which can be frustrating.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#10 - 2014-11-07 16:03:03 UTC
UI color themes like Amarr make white color completely unreadable due to massive brightness of selected elements like chat or overview tabs. Any change of some sliders for adjustment of that brightness? Or separate setting for UI text color? Or both? :)

New icons on Neocom and station panel look nice. Good first step, proceed to HUD :)

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CCP Optimal
C C P
C C P Alliance
#11 - 2014-11-07 16:07:15 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
UI color themes like Amarr make white color completely unreadable due to massive brightness of selected elements like chat or overview tabs. Any change of some sliders for adjustment of that brightness? Or separate setting for UI text color? Or both? :)

New icons on Neocom and station panel look nice. Good first step, proceed to HUD :)


Yeah, we know about that issue and we'll be fixing that soon enough Smile
Opner Dresden
H A V O C
Fraternity.
#12 - 2014-11-07 16:07:30 UTC
The themes look awesome and are definitely a nice universe touch... but can we get custom color choices back? For people running multiple accounts it's a nice at a glance way to remind yourself you're on the hauler/spy/titan alt.
CCP Optimal
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2014-11-07 16:07:49 UTC
Ravcharas wrote:
Station panel disappeared. I had to toggle the ISIS thing on and off for it to show up. Then I undocked and when I docked it was gone again.

Also, could you talk me through why you don't have text labels on the neocom as an option?


This is a known issue; it only happens in stations that have one or more of it's services disabled.
Manic Velocity
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-11-07 16:12:58 UTC
Please let us customize the window transparency. Some text becomes nearly unreadable against brighter backgrounds, especially if the window is pinned:

http://i.imgur.com/ZxRjRGY.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/8dCBFQT.png?1

On that same note, I'm using the "Gallente" color scheme, and the white text label in the selected tab is difficult to read against the bright green. The "Amarr" color scheme is even worse, with white-on-bright yellow:

http://i.imgur.com/dEo0z3b.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/gADgnQj.png?1

On lighter color schemes such as these, could the labels adjust to a darker color for better contrast?

The padding on some windows could use some adjusting. Their text, icon and button elements sit a little too close to the edges:

http://i.imgur.com/aswX6kW.png?1

(Forgive me if "padding" is not the correct term in this context. I'm a web designer by trade, and that's the term used for this kind of thing.)

Personal Assets icon looks more like a "cyclops box monster" than a safe. :P

Overall, I'm liking the changes so far aside from the issues noted above. I'm really looking forward to future iterations!

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#15 - 2014-11-07 16:13:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
My corpmates and I are unanimous, the loss of colors for the icons isn't a positive change. Its fashion and all that, but ultimately it doesn't help differenciating them.

I'm not asking to go back to the old icons, but it'd be cool to have some color differenciation instead of just plain grey icons.

Edit: I'd like to ask you to take some inspiration from the NES icon: Its flat, nice and modern, but it has enough color to be instantly recognizable;

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#16 - 2014-11-07 16:14:35 UTC
CCP Optimal wrote:
Yeah, we know about that issue and we'll be fixing that soon enough Smile


Great. I can't wait for next stages of this project. Keep them coming as soon as they compile :)

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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-11-07 16:20:53 UTC
Transparency needs a slider to adjust between zero percent and one hundred percent.
Funzinnu BT
FUNZWIKI
#18 - 2014-11-07 16:21:42 UTC
Please add colorless(black&white) themeShocked
F3X5ON
Zero Fun Allowed
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#19 - 2014-11-07 16:21:52 UTC
It looks awful. I didn't know eve is going to be a tablet game.
Please make an option to keep the old UI tia.
BEP3
Trial Death
#20 - 2014-11-07 16:22:37 UTC
I want to talk about new monocolor icons.
Different colors in UI have very important role - it speeds up the perception of UI by user. Color memory is faster than shape memory.
EVE UI is overloaded with different elements. Most basic, frequently used, active elements must be highlighted.
Current icons looks good and familiar.
New icons are monotonic and boring.
I'm developing GUI for military use, I know what I am talking about.
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