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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#41 - 2014-11-07 16:56:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
I cannot log in at all
"There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."

Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.

Maybe a Mac issue?

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Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#42 - 2014-11-07 17:00:21 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I cannot log in at all
"There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."

Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts.

Maybe a Mac issue?


Same, and I'm using windows 7. I suggest you find your eve sisi folder, go to the bin folder, and create a shortcut to exefile with the following shortcut parameter: /server:singularity

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Milo Caman
Anshar Incorporated
#43 - 2014-11-07 17:05:31 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I cannot log in at all
"There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."

Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.

Maybe a Mac issue?


Fix that worked for me for this issue by CCP Habakuk posted here.
CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#44 - 2014-11-07 17:10:45 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I cannot log in at all
"There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."

Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.

Maybe a Mac issue?


Clear your cache through the settings option on the launcher.

Then restart the client.

Hopefully this fixes it.

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters

Murashj
Void Geophysics
#45 - 2014-11-07 17:11:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Murashj
Issues:
-Text on selected tabs are too bright and borderline unreadeble (on most themes) on high res monitors (see chat window and overview. Hard to see on screenshot)


Wishlist:
-Make every second line on dscan, overview etc in a diffrent shade to make it easier to separate the lines (like the example I made in the overview, but a little more toned down)


Screenshot
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#46 - 2014-11-07 17:12:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Hendrick Tallardar
I'm also a bit confused, why is there a simplistic icon for every item in the left hand menu save for the New Eden Store icon? It would make sense to change that icon to accommodate the new design look as they are somewhat opposing in terms of design. Even a simple "NES" text icon, in the old NEX style, would be congruent to this redesign.
Cynthia Aishai
Aishai Industry Inc
#47 - 2014-11-07 17:14:45 UTC
In the new UI, brackets can't be seen through pinned windows.

in Tranquility, you can see brackets in space through any pinned windows.
http://i.imgur.com/3yMN9MM.jpg

in Singularity:
http://i.imgur.com/QfXr5Xk.jpg

worst of all, when i click anywhere on a window, the transparency changes that make things even harder to see.
http://i.imgur.com/mExN3nC.jpg

I hope it's a bug, not a feature
CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#48 - 2014-11-07 17:15:13 UTC
Murashj wrote:
Issues:
-Text on selected tabs are too bright and borderline unreadeble (on most themes) on high res monitors (see chat window and overview)


Wishlist:
-Make every second line on dscan, overview etc in a diffrent shade to make it easier to separate the lines (like the example I made in the overview, but a little more toned down)


Screenshot



We are aware that items are appearing too bright and are working on it.

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters

CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#49 - 2014-11-07 17:16:07 UTC
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
I'm also a bit confused, why is there a simplistic icon for every item in the left hand menu save for the New Eden Store icon? It would make sense to change that icon to accommodate the new design look as they are somewhat opposing in terms of design. Even a simple "NES" text icon, in the old NEX style, would be congruent to this redesign.


These icons are not 100% final, we are missing some, and some have not yet been changed.

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters

Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#50 - 2014-11-07 17:16:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hendrick Tallardar
Cynthia Aishai wrote:
In the new UI, brackets can't be seen through pinned windows.

in Tranquility, you can see brackets in space through any pinned windows.
http://i.imgur.com/3yMN9MM.jpg

in Singularity:
http://i.imgur.com/QfXr5Xk.jpg

worst of all, when i click anywhere on a window, the transparency changes that make things even harder to see.
http://i.imgur.com/mExN3nC.jpg

I hope it's a bug, not a feature


It appears to be a feature. It does that for every window now and the opacity changes when selecting different windows with the current window being more opaque.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#51 - 2014-11-07 17:16:36 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
I cannot log in at all
"There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."

Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.

Maybe a Mac issue?


Clear your cache through the settings option on the launcher.

Then restart the client.

Hopefully this fixes it.

Thanks , and same to Milo Caman. It cleared the issue.

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CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#52 - 2014-11-07 17:17:35 UTC
Cynthia Aishai wrote:
In the new UI, brackets can't be seen through pinned windows.

in Tranquility, you can see brackets in space through any pinned windows.
http://i.imgur.com/3yMN9MM.jpg

in Singularity:
http://i.imgur.com/QfXr5Xk.jpg

worst of all, when i click anywhere on a window, the transparency changes that make things even harder to see.
http://i.imgur.com/mExN3nC.jpg

I hope it's a bug, not a feature


I will have a chat with the team about this.

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters

Graham Chapman
Deadly Penguins
#53 - 2014-11-07 17:17:58 UTC
Please rework the People & Places windows while you are at it.

P&P

So much wasted space at the top of that window.

Also, please create a station service button size setting that corresponds to the icon size in the merged hangar window. I'm not even sure why that bugs me so much but it does.

Station Services / Guests

The amount of guests is currently cut off, the number placement is a little odd anyway.

All in all, I do like the changes, although it makes the HUD look a little out of place. The looks don't match, at least in my opinion. More customization in the color department would be nice as well as sliders to adjust transparency for the 3 window states.
CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#54 - 2014-11-07 17:18:03 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
CCP Claymore wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
I cannot log in at all
"There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."

Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.

Maybe a Mac issue?


Clear your cache through the settings option on the launcher.

Then restart the client.

Hopefully this fixes it.

Thanks , and same to Milo Caman. It cleared the issue.


Awesome!

Hope you enjoy.

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters

uno muerto
Capital Fusion.
Pandemic Horde
#55 - 2014-11-07 17:19:46 UTC
I really like the new UI. My favorite part is how when the chat's aren't in focus they aren't as distracting, excellent when you're trying to focus on PVP...or anything really. Love the color schemes, although a few of them don't seem to different from each other. Love the changes guys, keep up the good work.
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#56 - 2014-11-07 17:20:21 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
I'm also a bit confused, why is there a simplistic icon for every item in the left hand menu save for the New Eden Store icon? It would make sense to change that icon to accommodate the new design look as they are somewhat opposing in terms of design. Even a simple "NES" text icon, in the old NEX style, would be congruent to this redesign.


These icons are not 100% final, we are missing some, and some have not yet been changed.


OK, just as long as you folks are aware of the difference in how the two icon designs look next to one another. I would also like to reiterate that harmonizing the "Inventory" icon with the "Cargo Hold" icon would be ideal.

Example - http://i.imgur.com/DDnTNlk.png
Cynthia Aishai
Aishai Industry Inc
#57 - 2014-11-07 17:29:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Cynthia Aishai
CCP Claymore wrote:
Cynthia Aishai wrote:
In the new UI, brackets can't be seen through pinned windows.

in Tranquility, you can see brackets in space through any pinned windows.
http://i.imgur.com/3yMN9MM.jpg

in Singularity:
http://i.imgur.com/QfXr5Xk.jpg

worst of all, when i click anywhere on a window, the transparency changes that make things even harder to see.
http://i.imgur.com/mExN3nC.jpg

I hope it's a bug, not a feature


I will have a chat with the team about this.



Please do!
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#58 - 2014-11-07 17:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Hendrick Tallardar
Re: people and places icon, here is a suggestion:

Take this "member list" icon from the Corp window and replace the star with a magnifying glass. Boom, you have an easily identifiable icon for "people searching" which is what that window primarily does (I know it's not the only thing it does but it's an easy concept to convey).

http://i.imgur.com/ICdNO4J.png

Also the right click menu for the overview is of the same color as the rest of the overview making it a bit hard to read/notice the edges of. Perhaps a darker color from that same palette or a more noticeable menu edge would help.

Edit - I also docked into UC3H-Y and apparently something changed the display for the station menu making it not appear. That might need some looking at.

http://i.imgur.com/lfCD7Bn.jpg
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#59 - 2014-11-07 17:39:15 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:


Awesome!

Hope you enjoy.


I bug reported that the "green" theme washes out the text on selected buttons.

Also I miss having the option to pick my own colors. Ive carefully found three I like, one for each account, and now they will be gone. I want my colors back, please.

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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2014-11-07 18:05:46 UTC
Hopped on SISI to take a look and



  1. I like the new window transparency layers especially if they work with the hacking interface there wasn't anything to scan down and test it.

  2. Target list anchor still changes display order when moved passed "center" of screen. There is no way to set display order as left to right or right to left although you can set it to vertical or horizontal Rollhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=379931&find=unread

  3. Not all windows are resizable, stackable, or able to be rolled up to just the title bar. Fitting is one of these, Industry is another. Please make all windows resizable, stackable, and able to be rolled up. I'm a big boy I can decide how big I need a window to use it

  4. Flat monochromatic icons are hideous and makes the game look like something from the 80's. I use to play ASCII games on a Kaypro II with a green monochromatic screen, while I like to wax poetic about ye old days I have no desire to relive them. Please keep the multi color icons that look modern and not a throw back to the 80's.

  5. Where have all the sliders gone so I can create my own skin colors? You want to make some presets you can theme the UI on default with thats fine but please do not take away my ability to change the skin color as I see fit. Maybe I want a hot pink UI or a purple one or some other nausea inducing color that is possible with the RGB sliders.



Thats all I had time for over all looks good except for the god awful icons.