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Simplest solution would have been for the major blocs to do away with NBSI and instate NRDS in all territories. Simply create a site like the CVA use to tell who is blue and who is sos and encourage neutrals to use the unused space. This isn't a problem with the mechanics of null sec this is a problem with the mind set of those who own vast amounts of territory.

The truth is the vast majority of those who would like to get into null don't because a lot of people don't want to rent esp. if their owners are assholes who they can't count on to defend them and the renters know it.

If the major blocs opened their null space to neutrals in the same way Providence does there would have been plenty of gud fights all over the ******* place and **** tons of more content but the largest null empires won't because they be scared of what could happen if they let neutrals in. Meanwhile those in Providence reap the benefits of all the content they create that others claim to want and Providence does it by allowing neutral 3rd parties into their space. This is what generates content that people want.

To put it blunt the majority of null is is full of pussies who want gud fights but aren't willing to make the concession that by acting like isolationists in the same manner as nations like N.Korea they get stagnation and less content. Their pussies not because they won't show up for a fight with over whelming numbers but because you won't let anonymous 3rd parties use your space out of the FEAR of losing your shiny ratting / plexing whatever the **** you do to make isk ships. Mean while those in Providence reap tons of content the larger blocs only wish they had and Provi does it everyday with but a primarily sub cap fleet. God save the rest of null if Providence ever starts encouraging the proliferation of cap fleets and find the FC's to actually start using them to good effect.

There's a reason people flock to Providence and it's because when their there they can run anomalies, mine and do all the other stuff you can do in null sec without asking permission to do it from anyone.

You can do that in anyone else's territory as I do it every day but the majority of people like those who make up Providences 3rd parties want somewhere they can put down roots without being someones whore. So who can blame people who would rather pay station fees and take the occasional loss due to a misunderstanding then be the rental whores of any other null bloc.

Truth is mechanic's aside the stagnation that EVE experiences today is experiencing today is a result of the NBSI policy that the vast majority of Null alliances adhere to and now CCP has to come up with mechanics to somehow fix what is really a problem with the null sec players mindset.

Basically you have the leadership of null sec unable to change the way they do things so their asking for CCP to fix it for them but i'm sure as just in the past it won't matter what CCP does if the leadership of null sec isn't willing to change how they operate and view people outside of their alliances using their space then there will be nothing but stagnation.

The policy of NBSI and those who follow it is basically that by doing the same thing over and over they expect a different result and it just doesn't work that way. If you all let people in your space and shot those in your neighbors space you'd all have plenty of gud fights. If this is what everyone in null was doing then we wouldn't even be having this threadnaught

Remember when the DEVs said they wanted to make carriers only launch 5 fighters instead of 15 cuz they thought they were too OP? This thread is like that, only worse.

I will say that I like the idea behind jump fatigue in limiting the distance a capship can travel in a period of time, but the actual math and timer calculations behind it are a bit too complicated to understand at a glance. They also seem arbitrary, and could use another pass or two before being put on SISI for testing.

While these changes MAY be necessary to get the capital ship situation under control, these jump fatigue mechanics should NOT apply to sub-capitals ships. Sub capital ships using their Alliance jump bridges or black ops fleets sneaking around to cause shinanigans is NOT a problem in this game. No one's empire is collapsing to ashes due to unrelenting black ops fleets, and no one wants to hold a Sunday Night Black Ops fleet with 45 minute interludes between drops.

What if you try to launch a fleet for PVP roam and some of your guys have used the jump bridge recently. If your route intended to go through the bridge, go roam, then return home through the bridge, your fleet members may have a wide range of very different jump delay timers when it is time to return.

Forcing the 'everyman' in to more dangerous or time-consuming situations to accomplish 'everday activities' within the game will only frustrate young/new players, deminishing new-player retention.

MAYBE this mechanic makes sense for capitals. Maybe just super-capitals. But definitely DO NOT do this to pilots in sub-capital ships.

A I like to point something out goonswarm you suck please go home because your drunk, and B this chage will bring more unneeded cancer to this game... Thank you it's not pointed out to me to see my caps.

Pretty sure there would be far simpler more arbitrary rules to achieve the same effect. Just a fixed rate jump cool down timer of 10 minutes would be good enough to allow smaller entities to deploy caps in the knowledge that a large entity 2 mids away might be 30 minutes away from crashing the party. A party that wont last 30 minutes because no instant escalation.

Make occupancy contingent on maintaining a presence in any particular system as per something like faction war mechanics. Remove the ******** timer fights over infrastructure. Add a 10 minute cool down timer per jump on cap fleets relocating 50 supercaps to vaporise some small gang cap escalation. No need for all this convoluted S*H*I*T imo.

Also, so my jump freighter can no longer reach anywhere from jita undock?
I guess i might as well sell it since a 6 billion isk block of useless pixels ganked on its out gate at the will of some scrubs that i have no ability to counter really is too expensive for me. I guess ill no longer be supplying hundreds of millions of isk of ships to fuel content in FW lowsec.

Bye... I miss you already.

They can literally keep every* mechanic except the range nerf to Rorquals and Jump Freighters. This would be nothing but win if they did.,


*They might also consider letting the Rorqual SMA hold any kind of ship....

Yes, I totally see people in nullsec flying primarily T1 hulls...not. I'm not saying you can't do it, but if I have 10 hours per week to play eve and I used to get to spend 9 hours doing something I find fun and 1 hour on tedious logistics work, and now I find that I'm spending 8 hours on tedious logistics and have 2 hours left for fun it's probably time to move on to some game where the devs are a bit less clueless.

Well aren't you a sweetheart? If this change goes through (unlikely), it will be EVE's famous playerbase of sperglords and sociopaths that I will miss the most, and I say that without a hint of sarcasm, honest.