Wormholes

I'll admit I haven't gone through this whole thread to find the answer, but does this basically mean that for C4 space, all invisible k162's will start to have a chance of becoming visible within 1 hour of warping to it? Since all C4 connected WH's are only 16 hours instead of 24?

Yes, but if you do not initiate warp, it will not even go into invisible state. So it will not change your current "lockup" behavior.
Just if you warp to - which you dont because you know your statics...

That other people forming a fleet on your invisible k-162 is your surprise(content) then.

CCP Fozzie,

As was brought up in the wormhole town hall, are the 16 hour wormholes going to have a different timer than the 15 hour timer? If not, you are saying that all other wormholes that close their static and warp to their new sig will have 8 hours of knowing that the other side is closed, where as 16 hour wormholes will only have a closed/warped to static for a guaranteed 1 hour?

I know you want to make wormhole space more dangerous, but when every single change seems to hurt lower class wormholes, especially C4s, it kind of sucks. Especially because this was brought to your attention by Corbexx.

Listen to the people that live in wormholes. We aren't complaining, we were just upset that our voices seemed to be viewed as 'noise' if we were upset about the direction of a change.

yes, confirmed, I just tested it on TQ.
kinda forces you to use a frig to scout any K162s or get stuck on the WH at zero with a T3 and risk getting tackled.

Basically, the mechanics are almost identical as before. If you jump through the wormhole, the K162 will spawn. If nobody grids (warps to) the wormhole, it will stay shut indefinitely. If someone does grid the wormhole (and doesn't jump through), it will stay shut until it has 15hrs of life remaining, at which point it can randomly open at any time.

WTH are you thinking CCP! or not thinking! Real Black holes reduce sensor strength, targeting range, and increase inertia! Gravity wells and waves seriously mess up any observations at distance! So don't call this wh with anti-black hole effects a black hole wh! This wormhole should really just be called the "space gel reducing" wormhole because it lessens the effects of space gel constantly slowing down our ships by a small degree!

And do larger ganking groups really need a buff against smaller less-prepared groups? Really?! We don't need a new mechanic for letting the wh pvp group bring massive fleets into known space (or wh space) without the K162 wh being seen and anticipated. Just like your stupid gate camping mechanics allow large fleets to insta-kill solo travelers force the ishtar-love to get nerfed twice back into insignificance.

STOP buffing large fleets against smaller groups! They don't need the help.

Dear CCP!
Have you thought about ordinary miners living in W-space?
Gravy anomaly scan is not necessary.
Cooldown of warp barge - 20 seconds. Frigates Warp instantly.
Displaying new signaruty only after frigate already flying towards the miner. Update scan for see new k162 not every second.
You think only of those who will kill us.
Where is the logic?

Pre-patch, the moment you were warping to a wormhole, would appear a signature on the other side. Even like that, I had to refresh the scan to see it. So wasn't that easy even before patch. Now if you warp to a wormhole, no signature appears on the other side unless you jump through it.

So if the attacker finds a wormhole has all the time in the world to prepare an attack. The defender has no clue ever what's about to happen. I find that not FAIR for the defender.

Dude...what's to scout if you have no signature on scan ? What can you do when the local fills up in a second out of nowhere ?

First of all, no sigs on D-scan isn't the only clue. How about the set of combat probes out and someone tapping scan on them every 10 seconds or so?

Second, what about using their eyes to watch local, something WH residents never use? (Because we're smart enough not to talk there, and because until anyone talks they don't show up.)

Third, how about having more than one scout? Your transport's system is great. The system ahead of you is great, too. If you don't have guards, though, or a webbing ship to help, you're still gonna die just from how slowly a Freighter aligns and warps. (Again, who the heck uses a Freighter in null? With no scouts or guards? Seriously, this is making me think we need to roam there more often! Free freighter kills, no gank needed, no sec status loss, no scouts, no guards, lots of warning from local!)