Wormholes

You agruments are not valid. This Will not promote pvp and Will only empty W-space even more.
You did not read this thread.
No more cap fights, no more small to medium corps only empty wasteland.
No one Will be joining only leaving because of this.

I didn't pose any arguments. Merely a statement. Adapt.

Adapt or go play something else.

If you take the second option please feel free to contract your stuff to me at the nearest hisec hole on your way out.

Right, so people leaving the game is fine by your opinion. Thats interesting. Bet thats exactly aim of CCP.

How about YOU adapt to what we have to far and find it okay, instead of telling majority with same opinion to do that. Oh the trolls.

So more risk, less reward.
Delay local in null by 30 secs. I dare you.
WHs are alraedy dangerous enough. Ive lost fair amount of ships to all kind of WH surprises. If by unpredictable you mean that I spawn away from wormhole and have to slowboat / rewarp to close useless dead end hole, oh well.

If you want a risk, go annoy BU in WH or something. Having ships end up farther from the hole is not a risk, its annoying nuisance. Eventually it will stop anybody small enough from rolling holes. Surely does generate content. Unless in your interesting post you missed it, its about distance from the hole here. HOw that is scary or unpredictable is beyond me. How can you compare it crap, I mean nullsec, where everything is so obvious it would make stones cry, I dont get as well.

This change is for worse, killing WHs and not generating anything. IF you are okay with 90 % leaving and 10 % adapting, good. Bet marketing of CCP will love you, ill happily throw my money at other games, then to play a game where they are fixing what is okay by adding broken features, as you can very easily tell from the feedback. Or should they all adapt? Saw the very first post? Majority of WH dwelling corps are against.

Go to null.

CCP Fozzie's states the Dev's intentions for the Hyperion patch are:

1) Create some variety and excitement in wormhole mechanics since most haven’t changed in many years
2) Provide ways for players to engage more fully with the random and mysterious elements of wormhole life and a ease back on attempts to ‘tame’ and control wormhole mechanics
3) Address some of the imbalance between wormhole environment effects
4) Address some of the imbalance between wormhole classes

(Numbering is mine)

At first glance the MBSD change seems to satisfy all 4 aspects, however after considering many of the well presented salient points in this thread it becomes clear that the MBSD would actually work against the first half of goal 2 and the entirety of goal 4.

In regards to #2. The ability to collapse a WH is the ability to "engage more fully with the random and mysterious elements of wormhole life" IMHO this is the premier reason to live in a WH. In many ways we are using the emergent mechanic of rolling to a new chain of WH's as a content generation tool.

Currently we can close undesirable links to avoid certain hostile situations, but more often than not we are proactively seeking connections that have a substantial positive effect on content creation, whether that is PVP, PVE, Travel, Logistical efforts, or Exploration. This closely correlates to Hilmar's 2013 Fanfest Keynote speech when he describes a jetcan mining op... wait... they're doing what??? holy crap that's cool and better than what we thought.

In regards to #4. MBSD would make rolling much more risky for smaller groups (who presumably live in C1's, 2's & 3's) perhaps to the point of reducing players to POS spin instead of taking the risks of ship loss (which proportionally have much higher value to a smaller corp). Clearly this is the opposite of the stated intent.

Further, our current practice satisfies the first half of #2 far better than the MBSD. Yes, it comes at the expense of the latter half, but the benefits of being able to explo-roll (to generate all types of content) vs rage-roll (create a one jump link so a corp can easily deploy a capital supported force) is an important distinction to consider.

One idea that would satisfy all of the stated goals could be a deployable module that facilitates collapsing wormholes.

In use, the capsuleer would activate the module and protect it while the timer runs. At the end of each cycle it would collapse the hole by reducing a portion of the remaining useable mass. To facilitate an aggressor, the opposing side of the WH would have it's signal strength in the probe scanner boosted to 100% as well as giving a visible and audible state change to the WH itself (I recommend the sound of a screaming goat).

The amount of time the module would need to collapse could be scaled to impede rage-rolling but still allow timely closing for explo-rolling while automatically working faster on lower class/mass WH's. The environmental effects of the various WH types could also play into the time required to collapse the WH. Perhaps an hour for a vanilla C6, scaling down to 10 minutes for a C1.

Additionally some interesting combat scenarios could develop from having a variety of meta / tech / faction variants that provide different ranges vs EHP vs resists vs timings. Additional curbs could also be provided through having it consume some type of PI produced fuel, it's cost, how it is created in game, and the skill tree.

Yes, this module would make it possible for a lone pilot to collapse an uncontested WH. However, in this capsuleers opinion, the benefit of being able to find and generate content outweighs the downsides of controlling the wormhole mechanics. This idea would help to maximize the ability of the existing WH dwellers to create content while helping to curb the abuses of rage-rolling and encourage more players to try out the C1's and C2's.

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